micky boy Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Hello guys just wanting to know a few things about what i need to do a turbo converstion on my n/a I know i need the basics like Engine Loom EngineECU ectBut the thing i want to ask is do i need to use a glanza dash loom orr can i just use my N/A loom? if i do need to use a glanza dash loom then why lol? Also is the black box thing that the king lead plugs into part of the engine loom? orr is it do to wth something completely different? Also do i need to use a glanza fues box? orr do i just use the N/A's?Thanks in advance im sure i will have more things to ask as i gather the bits lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky boy Posted May 6, 2011 Author Share Posted May 6, 2011 It take it the black box that the king lead plugs into is the coil pack lol? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dean @RW-Developments Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 you will need the glanza fuse box. the box that the king lead goes into i think has 2 extra plugs from the glanza fuse box, cant remember without looking at it also you will need to re-wire the loom to be able to plug a glanza loom in with the n/a loom because the glanza ecu is 3 pin instead onf 2 pin like the n/a and gt ecu. the easiest way you could convert it is put all the wiring from a glanza straight into the n/a along with the clocks heaters etc. just simply swap the lot. my loom is fully converted to run ep82 engine loom ecu etc with the n/a interior loom Dean Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaneyb Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 You will also need V/GT indicator stalks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky boy Posted May 6, 2011 Author Share Posted May 6, 2011 Thanks for your help dean Hmm i thought the engine loom was part of the wireing for the ECU ect so is the dash loom part of the ecu heaters clocks ect? sorry if the questions are abit dum but im just learing as i go along lol Ohh and guys i think it would be best to use a glanza loom then a GT loom would it not? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaneyb Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Yes it would be best to use a Glanza loom . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky boy Posted May 7, 2011 Author Share Posted May 7, 2011 Okey dokey cheers shaney so dose anyone know if the engine loom is part of the wireing for the ECU? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
adz_sportif_turbo Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 yes mate, the 26 pin and 16 are mainly engine sensors and auxiliaries, and the 12 pin is for interior loom and power to things like relays, fuel pump switched power etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
llawgoch Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 i have just crashed my 4efte sr conversion so i can sell you my whole harness if u like, with sr clocks and the lot, providing i can get my car off the insurance, and if your intrested a fully forged 265 bhp engine lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky boy Posted May 7, 2011 Author Share Posted May 7, 2011 yes mate, the 26 pin and 16 are mainly engine sensors and auxiliaries, and the 12 pin is for interior loom and power to things like relays, fuel pump switched power etc.Hmm im not that clued up on the pin side of things..So your saying 26pin is the engine loom? and 12 pin is the interior loom? Because i was just thinking my starlet is a CD with full electrics (sun roof also has rev gauge like the SR's ect) so wont it be more or less the same as the glanza interior loom?i have just crashed my 4efte sr conversion so i can sell you my whole harness if u like, with sr clocks and the lot, providing i can get my car off the insurance, and if your intrested a fully forged 265 bhp engine lolHmm im interested mate will get back to ya wants i get somemore info on whats what. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nanglebadger Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Fact - u can use the N/A fuse box. How do i know? because its running on mine.Fact - you don't need GT/V indicator stalks. How do i know? because my n/a stalks are still running.It should also be noted that WeeJohn found it easier to splice a GT loom into my 91 than to splice a V loom in.Phil. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob_bower Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Somewhere I have a list of everything recommended by a starlet legend needed fir the conversion! I'll see if I can dig it out! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bucketep91 Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 aye fuck splicing looms together, im just gonna swap the lot on mines. im gonna do a wee write up and take loads of pics when i do mine soon,ill be sure to put a thread up Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaneyb Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Phil I think maybe you should write a guide/parts list that you need for the conversion. The only reason I said that you need indicator stalks is because when I made a thread like this, it was what I was told. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nanglebadger Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 i would do buddy, but u'd be better talking to Jaystar77 and WeeJohn, because they did mine. I just watched and handed over money lol!Phil. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky boy Posted May 7, 2011 Author Share Posted May 7, 2011 Thanks very much for the info guys ;) its all starting to sound abit tricky so i can be done two ways is that right? 1. use everything out of a glanza Engine loom dash loom fues box..do i need anything elss electric wise?2. use a glanza engine loom then splice into my N/A dash loom?.. hmm dont think i will go with this one!!!Also if i did end up useing the glanza engine loom dash loom ect will my sun roof still work? as most glanzas dont have a sun roof...orr would i be best off finding a glanza dash loom that had a sun roof lol? im not sure how all this shit works lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky boy Posted May 8, 2011 Author Share Posted May 8, 2011 Right so its best to just swap alll the shit off a glanza onto my n/a? the only thing im not sure about is how would i get the likes of my sun roof to work because the glanza shell im thinking of getting dosnt have a sun? ect Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joel_ep91 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 you will prob find that all the plugs for a sunroof are on the glanza loom just with blanks in them as toyota wouldnt make diffrent interior looms for sunroof models, just make the one loom and put blanks into plugs that arnt used Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky boy Posted May 8, 2011 Author Share Posted May 8, 2011 Thanks for that joel, atleast thats one thing off my mind ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Toffinator Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 You can just go get the rest of that glanza from Jap city micky ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky boy Posted May 9, 2011 Author Share Posted May 9, 2011 You can just go get the rest of that glanza from Jap city micky ;)Haha nothing left on that now mate and i dont have 2k to give him ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky boy Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 Anyone know if im ok to use the na gearbox and shafts? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bucketep91 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 you can mate, its a bit weaker but has shorter ratios.dean is still using his n/a box iirc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nanglebadger Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 as is Joz, opr at least he was initially. Jay was saying it makes it rapid to 100mph!Phil. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jozinobi Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Anyone know if im ok to use the na gearbox and shafts?I'd say both will be 100% as long as in good condition I'm now running 1bar emu mapped and my 4EFE box is still going strong, it does have a Quaife which improves it a bit more but its more than capable.The ratios are slightly shorter, not that you would notice a huge difference, however your top speed is definitely lower not that you would need one for a rapid acceleration/response ep.For the record I will eventually upgrade to a rebuilt fte box with aftermarket diff just to see the difference.Not tried a TD04 setup with it yet but we'll see what the box and clutch have to say about that.Joz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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