StarletMad Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Im toying betweenSubaru Impreza SportorMr2 Turbo??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
drew 007 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Out of those i would go for the mr2 every time matey, im just breaking my mr2 after 6 fantastic years, there a great car matey. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Impreza sport? Not worth a wank Quote Link to post Share on other sites
drew 007 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 ^^^ very true, to be fair wrx sti's dont really bother you, well they didnt in mine, but i was running td05 at 1.4 bar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StarletMad Posted July 7, 2011 Author Share Posted July 7, 2011 In all fairness though im only 21 Suprisingly Mr2 insurance is under a grand so think i might go that route. and they go sideways Quote Link to post Share on other sites
drew 007 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Yes they do go sideways...but they come back with some anger so be prepared matey.And try and get a rev3 to start with dude. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StarletMad Posted July 7, 2011 Author Share Posted July 7, 2011 am i correct in saying one of the Rev's has got the better diff? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
drew 007 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Rev1 and rev2 share the same 3s-gte engine. rev3 + cars comes with a differant 3s-gte engine with a differant lsd dude yes aswell as differant breaks/turbo/bumpers/lights/interior etc....rev1 and 2 both have air flow meters rev3+ users mapp sensors etc... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StarletMad Posted July 7, 2011 Author Share Posted July 7, 2011 Although they can all be welded cant they? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
drew 007 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 You could weld it i belive.Here is abit of info buddy enjoy... Differences between revision 1 & 2 engines and revision 3Just a quick list, do not take any of these as gospel: position and orientation of oil filter changed.different internal engine parts, e.g. pistons, con-rods etc.turbo charger changed from Toyota CT26 to CT20B (same intercooler though).boost pressure raised from about 10 to about 13 PSI.power output raised from 220 to 240 BHP.compression ratio slightly lowered.injector size increased from 430cc to 540cc.fuel cut threshold raised from about 12 PSI to about 18 PSI.head and inlet path completely redesigned. TVIS removed, 8 'independent long ports' reduced to 4.throttle body increased from 55mm to 60mm.inlet valve lift increased from 8.2 to 8.7.different, smarter engine ECU, more tolerant of poor fuel, different connector pin out.air flow meter removed.intake manifold inlet air temperature sensor added. i.e. after turbo and intercooler.ECU now modulates the turbo VSV to achieve variable control of boost pressure rather than either open/full or closed/reduced. Control of boost now quite subtle when ECU is unhappy because of temperatures, detonation, speed, etc.location of valve shims moved (someone said this was to stop problems with them falling out). If the manual is to be believed, this makes adjusting the valve clearances a much bigger job as on the revision 3 it involves removing the camshafts (might as well replace the timing belt whilst you're at it).exhaust valve clearance increased by 0.08 mm (probably. valve clearances is one question I'd like answered direct from Japan. They are probably the same as the UK GT4s, but it would be nice to be sure).oil pan changed from a one piece pressed steel part to a two piece affair, the upper half being aluminium, the lower half being pressed steel.No. 1 compression ring now described as 'stainless steel' in GT4 manual/supplement instead of just 'steel'. Oil ring is described as 'stainless steel' instead of 'a combination of steel and stainless steel'. No. 2 compression ring remains described as 'cast iron'.idle speed perhaps slightly reduced (need to check this out on a rev 1 or 2 car, my stickers say 750 rpm, I've a feeling rev 1 & 2 was 800 rpm).exhaust part numbers changed. Revision 2 part number for the front pipe is superceeded by the revision 3 front pipe part number. Back-box part numbers different. Unknown to me whether they are actually different.Coolant drain plug added on cylinder block (on older engines the manual says to disconnect a by-pass hose when changing coolant).(Please note a lot of significant chassis improvements were already made for revision 2, although revision 3 ABS is probably much improved including the addition of an accelerometer.) Its rumoured that the USA never got the later improved engines, even though the american version of the MR2 turbo was sold there until 1996 (in very small numbers after 1994 though). Chassis number SW20-0087386 and onwards have the newer engines according to the Toyota Electronic Parts Catalogue for the Japanese MR2 turbos. Differences between Japanese revision 3 MR2 turbo engine and UK ST205 (1994 onwards) Celica GT4 engineBoth engines are referred to by the same code: 3S-GTE. (However this doesn't mean a lot since they've been making the 3S-GTE since the 1980s, in various forms with various power outputs for various cars.) The following parts have identical part numbers on the two cars: pistoncon rod assemblycrank shaftcam shafts (both of them)block sub assembly (sorry I forget exactly what this means, just the actual block itself probably)clutch friction plateSome part numbers seemed to be different such as: turbo charger (but not on the Japanese ST205).engine ECU (obviously, although the connector pin-out is almost identical. Probably the same PCB programmed with different software and with perhaps some components left unpopulated).complete engine assembly (ST205 is 19000-88508, MR2 is 19000-88509)head sub assemblyshort block assemblyintercooler (obviously!)But I think you'll agree that the part numbers that match mean they are very similar engines, if not identical. (Bear in mind it does seem that Toyota may use different part numbers for identical parts). Other information that I've come across seems not to contradict this view except it does sound like the UK ST205 probably uses a steel exhaust turbine in the turbocharger though where as both the Japanese MR2 turbo and the Japanese ST205 use ceramic. Also, the UK ST205 probably has EGR (Exhaust Gas Recirculation, an emissions reduction thing), the Japanese MR2 turbo doesn't. Almost none of the part numbers in the revision 3 MR2 turbo engine were shared with the revision 2 engine. Revision 1 and 2 engines likely have a similar relationship with the engines of the UK ST185 Celica GT4 as revision 3 does with the UK ST205. Differences between Japanese and UK MR2sAn extensive list is yet to be produced, but most obviously its the level of trim and extras. Hifi systems are different, seats are different, Japanese have climate control and better ABS, that kind of thing. As far as I know all MR2s were made in the same factory, so therefore plain economics dictate that most of the mechanical parts are the same. Brake disks have the same part number, brake pads look identical, rest of brake parts are likely to be identical too. Wheels are identical. UK cars might not have the same shock absorbers due to the lighter weight of their NA engine, not to mention rumours of the ride being a bit softer in UK cars. Headlamps are slightly different but are interchangeable. On the whole though the chassis are pretty similar; claims by insurers or UK Toyota dealers that all the parts are different are pretty much untrue. Difference between Japanese GT and GTS modelsGT seems to have steering front fog lamps, electrically folding mirrors and some parts of the interior covered in dead cow as standard instead of as options. i.e. GT and GTS are pretty much the exact same car. Differences between revision 1 and revision 2 chassisDiameter of front brake disks increased from 258mm to 275mm. Thickness increased from 25mm to 30mm. Allowable wear increased from 1mm to 2mm.Diameter of rear brake disks increased from 263mm to 281mm. Thickness increased from 16mm to 22mm. (Allowable wear remains at 1mm.)Front tyres changed from 195/60 14 to 195/55 15. Rear tyres changed from 205/60 14 to 225/50 15. Compact spare also changed due to bigger brakes.Suspension/steering geometry changed.Front strut bar changed so that caster is no longer adjustable.Speedo changed to use an electronic sender and not a mechanical cable.This should help you alot matey. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Enzo Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 a minted post drew, enjoyed reading that, thanx for sharing! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
drew 007 Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 Not a problem Enzo, glad to help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hou Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 Why would you want to weld the diff on an MR2? You aren't considering trying to have a drift one are you??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Josh@TunerLifestyle Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 buy my mx5 then turbo it! you can make them mean as fuck and it allready has coilovers offers welcome buddy! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Glanza_cl Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 I wouldn't even say they go sideways... well they might but they either dont come back or snap like a mother F and then your going the other way.I loved mine and miss it alot, gripped like mad and was fast as fook but defiantly not the easiest to control when they let go! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Liam_D Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 MR2 Turbo all the way, Impreza sports are a pointless waste of space! Mr2s are one of my favourite cars. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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