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Actually CalGT has it lol. Good old Wikipedia which I never thought to check.

'A Gross Vehicle Mass (GVM) is the maximum allowable total mass of a fully loaded motor vehicle, consisting of the tare mass (mass of the vehicle) plus the load (including passengers).'

So that is actually the weight of the car plus I guess 5 people making the actual weight more like 1045kg. So it was my bad in the first place lol.

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It wouldn't make sense for the little Starlet to weigh that much anyway :p

I mean look at the Sportif, it is the bare basic minimum of a car.

No electric windows, no central locking, no aircon, just one airbag.

The only controls you get are the ones you need for driving, there's no fancy gadgets or anything like that.

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japanese car companies always get figures wrong, like bhp the always underestimate to get past regulations nd stuff.

erm i think a newish corsa 1.2 is about 82 bhp...buuut they must weigh a duck lot mare than the starlet, with all that safety crap nd stuff.

well montana jr u have ruined my little fantasy of good over bad :p perhaps it was a badged up standard one, but it had the kit, perhaps a replica, plus the exhaust was so big it must have been loosing power from tht...lol

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A Swift GTI would eat a N/A Starlet all day long! No doubt about it, they are a lot quicker than N/A Starlets, not just a bit! I speak from first hand experience, I've drove many N/A Starlets and a couple of Swifts and theres not much competition :p

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Think it was briggers mate who I met that had a Swift, looked kinda fast! Never been in a N/A Starbo to compare though...Next meet someone take me out in an N/A. I have my old 1.2 Punto to compare it to (ofc the starbo would be much quicker lol)

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Ok yeah standard vs standard Gti's and Ralley's would kill an N/A starlet, how light are they compared to a starlet then? a ralley is probably 780-90kg. But we arn't here to keep our cars standard are we...

However at the moment a 2.0 Astra GSi N/A (145 bhp standard) only really pulls away in 4th. Same as my mates 1.8 sport with lgiht and balanced fly cat back etc etc...

And cars that can't keep up - Fiesta Zetec-s (mk5), Vtr, 1.6 corrolla (4a-fe), 1.4 corsa sri...

Spec of car atm - Corrolla Manifold, Induction Kit, Decat and a Backbox...

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