interloper393 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Is this possible? Or option of fitting coil packs? My m8s don't ut on his v6 golf in his smoothed bay and looks awsomeCheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AdamB Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 You'll have to change the ECU to run coil packs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
interloper393 Posted August 13, 2015 Author Share Posted August 13, 2015 That's not a problem Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stu Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Fit a crank pickup then you can delete the dizzy entirely and run COP Quote Link to post Share on other sites
interloper393 Posted August 13, 2015 Author Share Posted August 13, 2015 Any guides to doing that buddy? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stu Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Sorry no, just talk to your ecu supplier, they should have access to a range of pickup wheels? Or I believe there is a 5efe model that came with the pickup and multicoils standard? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AdamB Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Sorry no, just talk to your ecu supplier, they should have access to a range of pickup wheels? Or I believe there is a 5efe model that came with the pickup and multicoils standard? The trigger is apart of the oil pump I believe on some of the 5E's. Can still be bought from Toyota. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fiddlersport Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 i have a 4efe off a corolla, this has the pick up sensor on the oil pump, can this be used ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
morgey Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 If you know what you're doing you can run coil on plug on the stock ecu, 4age guys do it all the time when they swap a 20v into an ae86 and want to loose the dizzy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stu Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Its not possible on the stock 4e or 5e ecu though. The 20v ecu runs a single ignition channel so the coil on plug units all fire at the same time, but because the ecu runs sequential injection the system still runs OK. The 4e/5e ECU only has batch fire injection so it would fire 4 times per revolution causing all sorts of backfires and kickbacks etc. You need a logic circuit with a small ecu to divide the ignition signal into two or four channels but the issue with that is working out how to not effect the dwell and spark edge. The multicoil version 4e/5e could run coil on plug as wasted spark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
morgey Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I stand corrected. Im surprised they used such a different system on 2 similarly aged cars thoough but i guess the 20v was almost a 5th gen engine so was optimised quite a lot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stu Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Yeah its a pain alright - would be nice to be able to delete the lot without using an aftermarket ecu. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
interloper393 Posted August 19, 2015 Author Share Posted August 19, 2015 Would a emanate do the job ok? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arnold Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Would a emanate do the job ok? Doubt it, that's just a fuel control system. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goldenvtr Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Doubt it, that's just a fuel control system. ive run an emanage ultimate with cops before on a 5e. i useda similar trick with my supra turbo conversion.. using the dizzy for the sensor but coil on plug ignition Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stu Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Yep an ultimate would run COP as it has the options of running up to 6 ignition outputs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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