Broony Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Right lads/lasses I took my battery off the car whilst i stripped the inter cooler and radiator off to have things fitted and new brackets welded on and generally perform some maintenance on it. After doing all i needed to i then put her back together everything if back how it was. and everything works lights etcs but wont start initial thought battery. Checked Battery, even tried my mates battery from his glanza still nothingChecked all fuses in side and engine bayChecked earthChecked diagnostics - no faults on the ECUJumped in diagnostic port fuel pump that worksChecked king lead, ignite Ignition turns on and everything is as it should be then final turn and nothing happens not a sound My thoughts are - immobilizer - unlikely- starter relay- efi relay Anyone got any ideas before i start spending more money? Peter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
satyrs Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 if your battery is fine you can try to check if your starter motor still works by shortly connecting a 12v+ to the starter. if it turns you know that the starter is fine.if the starter is fine you have to check your starter relay. because you can't start working diagnostics on the fuel system if the car isn't cranking. good luck trouble shooting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ep82gi Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 This happened to me once turned out after fiddling with a few things round the back of the block I some how caught the small plug on the started n pulled it out. It was as simple as plugging it back in. I hope you get it running dude. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Broony Posted September 4, 2015 Author Share Posted September 4, 2015 Next port of call is to check all earths then check starter relay/ starter.Thanks for the advice lads ^^^ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
funny onion Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Check the wires to the starter, the signal wire has come off/been damaged maybe? had this on one of mine Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Broony Posted September 4, 2015 Author Share Posted September 4, 2015 Check the wires to the starter, the signal wire has come off/been damaged maybe? had this on one of mineCheers Charlotte, i will check them, shouldnt of, as i havent been in that area but strainger things have happened 😁 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StuDoc 72 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 I was assuming this. If you were doing the intercooler, battery and rad I cant imagine there will be any problems in that area. Have you checked the earths are all back on 100%? Does the car have an alarm fitted with an immobilizer? When you turn the key past ignition to engage the starter is there no noises at all? Does the dash flicker at all? Where were you having brackets welded and did you change anything in relation to the I/C piping that something could be shorting out on? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Broony Posted September 4, 2015 Author Share Posted September 4, 2015 (edited) Hi stu, i had new brackets put on the ic as they had snapped. Put a fan shroud on the rad, i will put a vid up tonight of the if ignition, i do have an autowatch alarm fittes but it all works as the imobiliser functions on and off allows all ignition lights on.When i turn to start all lights go out except eml , no sound etc i think its the starter relay will try a friends working ine on saturday. Edited September 4, 2015 by Broony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Calum122 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Make sure the terminals are clean that connect the battery up to the car. If dirty they will need a clean. And clamp them on properly. As you're aware the starter motor requires considerable amounts of juice to get it going, if it struggles drawing the power then it simply won't turn over. I've had this on my car when I was working on it, and more recently my mates evo. So it's an easy fix that's worth while checking. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Broony Posted September 7, 2015 Author Share Posted September 7, 2015 Well little update car runs!!!!! Changed all fuses and relays. Still does start off the key but it does bump start So must be starter motor??? Never had one just stop on me but nothing suprised me with this car any more Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ollieh17 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Ive got a v starter here if you need one. Always worked spot on Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Broony Posted September 7, 2015 Author Share Posted September 7, 2015 Price ollie? Pm me deets im in spain atm so will have it off you when im back Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stu Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Use a multimeter and check that the trigger wire (single pin plug on the starter solenoid) gets 12v when your key is on start. Assuming its manual? As in an Auto there is a neutral start switch cut out if your not in park/neutral. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Broony Posted September 10, 2015 Author Share Posted September 10, 2015 Its manual. If its not getting 12v? What would i have to check after? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stu Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Ah ok, ignore the NSW then. You chould be getting 12v on the starter trigger when the key is on start. If not then check the main fuses. The start trigger feeds from the ignition barrel so you could also check voltage there. Usually a big black wire with white line. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
funny onion Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Exactly what stu said. Check the trigger wire in the starter- get someone to turn the key to start while you test it with a multimeter. Just be careful around the power for the starter (you'll be fine I just panic with stuff like one day there will be a dead short and it will go up in flames). If you don't have 12v at the end of the wire trace it back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stu Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Unless you running an alarm the trigger circuit it pretty simple. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Broony Posted September 19, 2015 Author Share Posted September 19, 2015 Right i have taken the starter of and tested both the solenoid and the starter it self both actions are working fine. Stu im running an autowatch alarm system but the imobiliser on it works i.e disengauges as the car wouldnt bump start if it didnt. Next step is as you say get a multi meter on the trigger circuit getting annoying now haha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stu Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Yeah it just sounds like the starter trigger isn't getting 12v so either the alarm is stopping it or there is another issue. Check at the starter end first. You can also check for power at the dash loom to engine loom plug under the dash. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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