Hey people, thanks for your informed oppinions, i shall be looking into it some more. I have toyo proxees T1-Rs on all four wheels, ive found out during my research is that Toyo deliberatly changed the tyres between T1-S and R. The S has more all round grip like in the wet and good in the dry, but the Rs have been changed to be super effective in the dry but reduced in the wet handling, i dont know if anyone has noticed this. The source for this knowledge is from the Toyo site. As for the eagle F1... don't know, never tried them yet. I was wondering how to improve brakes, i actually was asking ollie yesturday, he mentioned the brake reseviour to increase the pressure put on the brakes, but wasn't totally sure. I currently have 3G brakes with holes and grooves and green stuff pads. How can I make them more effective? Those Toyos looke nice man, but is there some reason i can't see the yokees? T