I had a m20b closed deck scooby tommy kaira wagon even though it was running big bhp it was not as fun at all as my reliable Glanza... The scooby was a money Pitt whereas the Glanza is so reliable in turn... Fwd are very very fast and if you look at the NYC1's Civics it's mind blowing what a fwd can achieve I'm astonished !!! Please take time to look I wanttttttt look at the link below http://www.nyce1s.com/