i know you say you dont want a sub, but i recently blew my amp on my sub, and all i have been runnin is the 4" speakers at the font and some alpine 6x9's in the shelf, runnin off the head unit not an amp.......and i have to say its not the same as having a sub, it just makes me want to have a sub more... but even if you dont like a subwoofer and think its chavy, it does its job in providing bass! no car is complete without decent highs (tweeters) decent mids (normal 6" speakers or 6x9's) and decent lows (bass, ie subwoofer) you dont have to get a big 1....just get a decent powered 8" 1 and you'll notice the diffrence Anup