thanks gents! ok, bumper first: its been washed down to remove the leaves and shit, and i have removed the fog light from it too, even if i wanted to use it it crumbled in my hands, junk, IN THE BIN! Indicators - now these were fun! u would think simply remove bub carrier from UK spec unit and insert it in Late spec unit yes?? me too, BUT the UK spec carriers have a different fitting pattern than the Late spec carriers, so u would then think swap bulbs over into Late spec carriers yes?? me too, however, UK spec carriers require an offset pin pattern, Late spec require a straight pin pattern! FUCK SAKE! so, rather than buyin straight pin silvatec bulbs at £15, its easier to trim the fitting pattern of the UK spec bulb carrier (~1mm from one of the small blocks in the fitment pattern) and insert this into the Late spec unit!! HOW VERY FIDDLY!!!! typical toyota tho wouldnt u know! i know swapping clear units for other clear units seems daft, it did to me, but when u hold these babies in your hand and do a comparison, the late spec ones are SSSSSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much nicer! My thanks to both SiCaln and to Rick once again! Phil.