all i will say is....if u walk round JAE u will see MANY cars with rotas, and i mean BIG cars, lots of scoobies etc etc etc u know the drill. they must have a certain amount of appeal in the jap car community. i WAS goin to get a set of auto x's.....but i have found somethin that (regardless of the build quality debate) i think look even more like the 'car-wheel-manifestation of PURE UBER SEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that is all. i have not expressed any opinions or slabbered about anything at all in this post, so i expect no hostile replies directed at me....or i will throw my moderator weight around and altho your post count will rise no one will know why because i'll just delete your posts.....so neh neh neh!!!!!!! B) anyway back to the point....get photoshop workin and get a chop done, i reckon it'll look pretty damn smart!!!!!!!!!! Phil.