i was thinking to my self today weal i lay in my bed at 1:30 PM, what am i going to do today? so i got up and had a stretch and a scratch, as you must when you get up! so i that "hmmmm i no what i will do, al titan my e brake up the day that shooed be a pees of pis !!" I WAS SO WRONG has anyone els had a prob getting the drums off? i have dun its lots of times on non starlets! and i am ashamed to say that it took me about 15 Min's just to get the F***ER off! so i think i will be grinding down the rim to make it easer next time!!! tintin