right well after a fairly scary brake fade moment on track at japfest 2 thought it was time to upgrade! was going to hols out till winter when the car comes off the road and get a wms kit, but after what i found on sat i had to do something for the mean time! old new 40 groove discs with yellow stuff pads! these are the olds discs up close, front, not to bad and now the back! no wonder i got brake fade!! and i even got my lass in the garage working on her own car