TimD Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 49135-04600 Yet to drive on this, it needs a rebuild as well as my engine so it will be a while! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5e colin Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 49135 - 04500 ( 4cm) 14T 49135 - 04600 ( 4cm) confirmed by TimD 14T unconfirmed49135 - 04690 14T 49135 - 04700 ( 6cm ) confirmed by 5e colin 13T49135 - 04780 ( 6cm ) confirmed by 5e colin 13T Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Androo26 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Ive had lots of trouble separating the the core from the housings .... and the best way to do it is apply some heat... works a treat every time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5e colin Posted July 16, 2016 Author Share Posted July 16, 2016 androo what code was your turbo with the 4cm housing ?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Androo26 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Righto Colin Ive just been down the shed and got the facts for you. 4cm housing does indeed have a 4 cast into it on the inside. Here are the numbers cast on the side. Confirmed. 35-13900 (4cm) Also this is cast onto it as well (DUCM) And im almost certain that this is the compressor cover that came off that one as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5e colin Posted July 16, 2016 Author Share Posted July 16, 2016 (edited) sweet same 1 as timd will have to source a 500 to confirm al the combos we have also the 4cm turbos al have a bigger 14t and the 6cm al have a 13t you have the proppeler still there from the 600 ?? Edited July 16, 2016 by 5e colin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Amjad Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Thanks for this thread, an interesting read for sure. Turns out the one I've recently had fitted is the -04500. Androo, what do you think the difference in power would be with my current turbo and that of a 4cm/td04 hybrid at say, 1 bar of boost? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Androo26 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Amjad.--- The 04500 is a fair size smaller than the TD04 in both compressor and exhaust wheels so the expected power out put is always going to be less, but without doing back to back dyno runs its hard to say.... At a guess 15-20kw max power difference. I think the limiting factor with my setup will be the Exhaust housing for sure... but im hoping to get 160KW at the wheel from it on a Built 5E Its a daily driven to and from work car not a race car.... well sometimes it is lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Amjad Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Interesting, thanks for that! Something to look into if and when this current turbo needs a rebuilt then Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5e colin Posted July 18, 2016 Author Share Posted July 18, 2016 Amjad.--- The 04500 is a fair size smaller than the TD04 in both compressor and exhaust wheels so the expected power out put is always going to be less, but without doing back to back dyno runs its hard to say.... At a guess 15-20kw max power difference. I think the limiting factor with my setup will be the Exhaust housing for sure... but im hoping to get 160KW at the wheel from it on a Built 5E Its a daily driven to and from work car not a race car.... well sometimes it is lol its the other way round no its meant to be a 14T / 700+ is al 13t and 6cm thats the info i gathered so far Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Androo26 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 I read that as though he was comparing a 4cm hybrid TD04 (the same as what im running) vs 04500 (wich is a 14T 4cm TF035) according to the above posts ?? Have I got it wrong here ? Whats the difference between a 13T and 14T Anyone ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Androo26 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Rightio then lads ive done some data logs on spool up with this 4CM TD04 hybrid im running. For those that dont know my setup its a rebuilt N/A 5EFE completely stock 9.5:1 comp. Turbosmart 38mm External waste gate. 4EFE Intake manifold. It runs a GFB Atom bleed valve (very basic) so this is about as slow/ linear to build boost as your going to get with no waste gate trickery at all. The run was performed in 3rd gear, foot flat to the floor from 2000 rpm till redline 6K 1 psi 2000 rpm3 psi 2120 rpm4 psi 2250 rpm5 psi 2380 rpm6 psi 2410 rpm8 psi 2560 rpm I might just add that using a bleed valve the gate at this point is almost all the way open as it going to get. So if it were using an EBC you could still have the gate completely closed if you wanted making use of all the exhaust gas9 psi 2620 rpm making it spool faster again. But Ive chosen the bleed valve because its more gradual and better for traction. (still awesome response on the street)10 psi 2950 rpm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5e colin Posted August 13, 2016 Author Share Posted August 13, 2016 I read that as though he was comparing a 4cm hybrid TD04 (the same as what im running) vs 04500 (wich is a 14T 4cm TF035) according to the above posts ?? Have I got it wrong here ? Whats the difference between a 13T and 14T Anyone ? as far as im aware 13t is 6cm housing 14t is 4cm housing friend of mine is going to measure his 600 series tfo compressor wheel i think the 4cm housing turbos use bigger exduseres to aid spool ?? tbc soon nice 1 androo what is she like top end where does she drop off ?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Androo26 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 (edited) I had this on the dyno last week .. Whilst im not going to talk power figures I can tell you that Peak HP was at 5570rpm and peak torque at 4417rpm At 5600 boost dropped 1 psi so its possible that peak HP may have stayed flat peak till the end. RPM Range 4E 4cm TF/TD 4E 4cm TD04 5E 4cm TD042-3k 16 15 133-4k 11 11 104-5k 12 10 105-6k 15 15 12 Total logs 54 51 45 Here is the log count and as you can see its still pulling well in the upper rpm. 5E for the win thats for sure. Edited August 13, 2016 by Androo26 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gorganl2000 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 very useful info androo26 one of my favorite combinations has always been the 5efye with td04l.....excellent daily car Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MR-2 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Found few new aftermarket TD04 turbos with pictures and prices, HL16T, HL13T, L14T. Not bad prices, any suitable models side of n/a 4E or 5E?http://www.biltema.fi/fi/Autoilu---MP/Autonvaraosat/Moottorin-osat/Ylilataus/Turboahdin/Turboahdin-2000019974/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SpikeyJp_68 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Compressor inducer measures 39mmCompressor exducer measures 51mm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5e colin Posted September 9, 2016 Author Share Posted September 9, 2016 nice 1 thanks a mill same size as the 700/780 series it has me baffled as our later 1s are meant to be 13t ???? confused.com again so whats the diference between 13t and 14t then ha ha ??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SpikeyJp_68 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 It wouldn't be the depth of it would it ? Or is it only dependent on diameter ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5e colin Posted September 10, 2016 Author Share Posted September 10, 2016 could be ?? i never measured the hight of them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SpikeyJp_68 Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 could be ?? i never measured the hight of them I'll measure mine today and compare against yours when you get chance Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SpikeyJp_68 Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 The inducer to exducer measures about 20mm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5e colin Posted September 10, 2016 Author Share Posted September 10, 2016 seen something there pmed you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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