Hairy1 Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 if there are any professional legal/clever types out there can you please pm me i was caught speeding although it was caused genuinely by a slipping clutch and my wanting to get up a hill using momentum without being rearended or causing an incident on a dual carrageway.any help or input would be great as ive had a clean licence eversince i started driving and i would ideally like to keep it that way!cheers chaps Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobSR Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 i dont know if theyll let you use that as an excuse..because, at the end of the day you were still speeding, and they'll say, you should of had your clutch sorted out, not our problem, unfortunately. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Starletraje Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 bourkey might be able to help but he is better for accident stuff, maybe joey i think she is in law Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy1 Posted July 16, 2008 Author Share Posted July 16, 2008 i dont know if theyll let you use that as an excuse..because, at the end of the day you were still speeding, and they'll say, you should of had your clutch sorted out, not our problem, unfortunately.hmm kinda thought that might be the reply,i guess they got bills to pay too..unfortanately i have two starlets to insure and neither are working at the moment!!boo...still open to any ideas folks as i need at least one car to get my overworked ass to..er work Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Starletraje Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 hmm kinda thought that might be the reply,i guess they got bills to pay too..unfortanately i have two starlets to insure and neither are working at the moment!!boo...still open to any ideas folks as i need at least one car to get my overworked ass to..er work define not working... as in wont start? wont move? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy1 Posted July 16, 2008 Author Share Posted July 16, 2008 bourkey might be able to help but he is better for accident stuff, maybe joey i think she is in lawis joey her login or just her name mate? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy1 Posted July 16, 2008 Author Share Posted July 16, 2008 define not working... as in wont start? wont move?if u mean the cars,one has slippin clutch the others in bits.if u meant me er.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mikey Jay Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Joey is her username yeahWill tell her to log on tonight, see if she knows anything that'll help Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Starletraje Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 think so... mikey is watchin this right now so he will explainEdit. i'm good Quote Link to post Share on other sites
starletno1fan Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 to be honest i think they wont care what you have to say. you were speeding, end of. but they do allow you to appeal, although most of the time your excuse has already been tried about a million times!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy1 Posted July 16, 2008 Author Share Posted July 16, 2008 Joey is her username yeahWill tell her to log on tonight, see if she knows anything that'll helpcheers ,i'll check tonite mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bourkey Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Howdy!!!Well this is going to be hit or miss to be honest. If you have to go to court then you might be able to talk your way out of it as if you have the physical evidence that your clutch was knackered and you can get a mechanics report as proof then you may be lucky and get away with it. You will also need pictures of the road to show what you needed to get up.If you don't have to go to court to get the fine and points (sometimes you just go to the station like my mate did) then you will have to appeal it by going to court. It will explain on the ticket the ways you can appeal but in the end it will go to court i reckon. Then you will do the above.The other side of the coin is you shouldn't have been speeding. At the end of the day broken car or not you should not be speeding. You should have got a tow to get home or left your car. It was your decision to try and limp the car home by speeding. Imagine if you knocked a kid over. You wouldn't be insured as the car isn't roadworthy. Look in your insurance terms. It will say something like "it is your duty to maintain the car in a safe fully working order. And can be inspected at any time."Im not having a go at you mate im just showing you how a court would see it. Hope you get out of it mate but next time i wouldn't risk it Bourkey Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryno Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 can you enlighten me how a slipping clutch caused you to speed? long and shorts are you were speeding, your car was un-road worthy and your admiting to not being in full control of the vehicle.....if you do decide to take it to court then make sure you say 'Yes your Honor' before you drop your pants and states in your mitigating circumstances that in the event of being raped by the legal system you'd prefer KY was used to ease the pain of the result! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Galliano Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 rynohe was speeding due to a slipping clutch as he approached a hill.. im guessing if he didnt he would of slowed down / possibly stalled and cause someone to hit him at high speeds - to avoid this problem (which would be a problem to police, ambulance and a fair few motorists) he went a little faster to get up the hill safely Quote Link to post Share on other sites
briggers Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 speeding fines suck as most speeding is controllable. police act like we all cant handle faster speeds and its so so so dangerouse. fuck dat. I've seen slower people who are more dangerouse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryno Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 rynohe was speeding due to a slipping clutch as he approached a hill.. im guessing if he didnt he would of slowed down / possibly stalled and cause someone to hit him at high speeds - to avoid this problem (which would be a problem to police, ambulance and a fair few motorists) he went a little faster to get up the hill safelyspeeding or stalling at 30mph due to a slipping clutch........... did you actually mean that or would you like to edit you post to add even a hint of knowlage?if the car wasn't in a fit state to be on the road he could of pulled over and if needed call for assistance, all the above is showing is that he was not in propper control of his vehicle and again if the car was THAT bad that is couldn't do the simplist of things i.e. slow down or stop (as i think we'll agree someone would never knowling drive a car with such a dangerous mechanical fault that it's a danger to other road users) then he was at fault, BIG fault, and heading to a path that dosn't have a happy ending for his licence or wallet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ecksjay Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 if your clutch was slipping, you shouldnt have been driving it, especially if its so bad that you cant get up a hill. if you tell em that you may find yourself in further trouble to be honest, i'd keep it quiet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy1 Posted July 16, 2008 Author Share Posted July 16, 2008 can you enlighten me how a slipping clutch caused you to speed? long and shorts are you were speeding, your car was un-road worthy and your admiting to not being in full control of the vehicle.....if you do decide to take it to court then make sure you say 'Yes your Honor' before you drop your pants and states in your mitigating circumstances that in the event of being raped by the legal system you'd prefer KY was used to ease the pain of the result! basically i was in traffic-fast lane with traffic behind and none in front (in my lane) big hill in front, just took a run at it to avoid causing the traffic to back up as i knew from the previous hill the speed would decay on the way up and didnt fancy getting rearended-looks like i might anyways.but yer agree with your comment on the legal system...ive caught theives repeatedly where i work and they always get off, despite having video evidence etc :-( Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy1 Posted July 16, 2008 Author Share Posted July 16, 2008 if your clutch was slipping, you shouldnt have been driving it, especially if its so bad that you cant get up a hill. if you tell em that you may find yourself in further trouble to be honest, i'd keep it quiet.see your point ,i was just making the situation as safe as i could- the clutch isnt falling out just slipping thats all it was a no brainer at the time.in the circumstance anyone considering fellow road users would have done the same, there just happened to be a camera thats all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryno Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 tbh then you'll just be wasting your time and the magistrates time, and for that they'll give you court costs and poss extra fine and/or more points! if you feel you've got a valid reason then get in contact with your local citizens advice bureu and see what then think of the situation! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Starletraje Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 see your point ,i was just making the situation as safe as i could- the clutch isnt falling out just slipping thats all it was a no brainer at the time.in the circumstance anyone considering fellow road users would have done the same, there just happened to be a camera thats all.don't tell me you were caught by a gatso... with all due respect you have to be stupid to be caught by one of them. they are big eff off yellow things. that never move, and have warning signs miles before hand.take the points on the chin dude, the judge will just butt buck you.and eckky is right. they could do you for dangerous driving if they find the vehicle was unfit for road. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Hmm this is a tough one - from experience I would suggest that they would say that you were speeding despite you having a slipped clutch. To get out of it you would have to prove that the clutch was slipping at the time you were clocked speeding, which is near to impossible unless you knew about it beforehand and had something being done about it.I know this is not the news that you want to hear but if I were you I would suggest just taking it on the chin and just be careful not to do it again. I agree with Bourkey though - at the end of the day a Court would not see it as a problem with the car, they just see the fact that you were speeding unless (as said above) you had the proof from a mechanics report or something.Sorry I couldn't be of more help to you. If I can assist any further let me know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy1 Posted July 17, 2008 Author Share Posted July 17, 2008 Hmm this is a tough one - from experience I would suggest that they would say that you were speeding despite you having a slipped clutch. To get out of it you would have to prove that the clutch was slipping at the time you were clocked speeding, which is near to impossible unless you knew about it beforehand and had something being done about it.I know this is not the news that you want to hear but if I were you I would suggest just taking it on the chin and just be careful not to do it again. I agree with Bourkey though - at the end of the day a Court would not see it as a problem with the car, they just see the fact that you were speeding unless (as said above) you had the proof from a mechanics report or something.Sorry I couldn't be of more help to you. If I can assist any further let me know.thanks for your view,much appreciated so far as i can tell i was aware of the camera in question but i still had the problem of the car loosing speed as it got nearer the top of the hill with traffic behind and chose to drive safely and not risk bunching the traffic up.i can get an independant report on the car as its as i left it on my return-i thought it best not to fix the problem so they have some evidence if need be, luckily i have a brief spell off work so i can get my other starlet on the road hopefully:my gtt has loads more torque and is more relaxing to drive slowly as a consequence and i look forward to drivin it again *incase anyone wants a laugh,the damage to my clutch was caused by pulling an AA van out of a ditch!! no good deed goes unpunished eh * have a photo too!sorry for any rambling, ta Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Starletraje Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 thanks for your view,much appreciated so far as i can tell i was aware of the camera in question but i still had the problem of the car loosing speed as it got nearer the top of the hill with traffic behind and chose to drive safely and not risk bunching the traffic up.i can get an independant report on the car as its as i left it on my return-i thought it best not to fix the problem so they have some evidence if need be, luckily i have a brief spell off work so i can get my other starlet on the road hopefully:my gtt has loads more torque and is more relaxing to drive slowly as a consequence and i look forward to drivin it again *incase anyone wants a laugh,the damage to my clutch was caused by pulling an AA van out of a ditch!! no good deed goes unpunished eh * have a photo too!sorry for any rambling, tathat was silly... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy1 Posted July 17, 2008 Author Share Posted July 17, 2008 that was silly...your not kidding he wouldnt even give me free membership w*nker!graham if your reading this i owe u a kick in the nads Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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