Hairy1 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 my ep was recently written off(been driving 10years without a scratch-gutted ), i'm waiting for the insurance to payout and still recovering to some extent meanwile, ive been considering a nissan pulsar as an alternative mostly because its 4wd, i just wondered if it'll be worth the extra insurance/tax???any input would be good even if im blaspheming by considering something other than another starbo! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Si@Fiske Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 personally, no.. depends on what you want to do project wise.. youve also got to remember they weigh in at about 1250kg's aswell so there heavy bastards.. but obv can be made pretty dam quickalso they have became chav wagons imo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AaronW Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 hey,ive owned both. love starlets and pulsars.if you dont mind the fact a pulsar does very little mpg, then id get one,everyone has different opinions but expect 15-20mpg. i got 17mpg roughly with my 300bhp pulsar.imo pulsars are great,id have another anyday of the week,but im keepin my gt.weak points on pulsars are the gearboxes over 300bhp.at the end of the day if u aint happy with it u can always sell it.Aaron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy1 Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 It depends what you want for a car.Starlet - FWD, Cheap to run, Cheap to Tax, 180hp then you have to spend funny money for more power, Reasonable handling, fantastic reliabliltyGTiR - 4WD, More Expensive to Run, More Expensive to Tax, 300hp is EASY to get, Reasonable handling, average reliability (as Aaron said gearboxes don't like much over 300hp)The weight doesn't effect it much TBH. They have enough torque to fuck up alot of things off the lines.I'm looking at getting one next after my 200 could you guess roughly how much more a pulsar is to run? (my insurance for the gt was £466)cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Enzo Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 expensive, out of all the early90s group A rally cars it guzzles fual the most, but they are also the fastest in a straight linewanted one back a while ago and spent ages looking into the pitfalls of buying one, as they are so cheap, but the gearbox issues and problematic sensors that were really easy to fix but in acward places and the fact that 20mpg on a good day put me off as i do so many miles.there was a website i used, think it was gtiroc that had an interesting autocar article where it was pitted against ascoobyevolancier delta323 gtxthat was a good read Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryno Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Pulsar..... not much in it really that are in a diff. league to starlets!however for the money it might be worth getting an early evo with the credit crunch as prices are at rock bottom!on that note my bro has a Pulsar for sale if your interested?! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulgtt Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 GTI-R's are silly quick, my mate is on his 3rd! 1st one he had to sell when he couldn't insure it. 2nd one blew up. 3rd one is now in bits....................after blowing up. As said gearboxes are very weak, buy one thats had a Quaife unit put in. Body panels are flimsy. Brakes are s**t....................very s**t. Get a good one though with around 350bhp and its a Ferrari killer down the 1/4 mile. However running costs are extraordinary at that power level. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AaronW Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 thats one thing i forgot about.....the brakes!! lol,they suck sooooo bad.ull find most pulsars that have been tuned abit will already be upgraded.good luck if you got for one! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ste91 Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Ryno, link to your Bro's please.Insurance on a Pulsar will be about the same as an Early Evo. Around 800-1000quid if your about 22-23 with a good licence.I have to disagree with Ryno slightly, Evo's although more reliable, cost a fucking FORTUNE to repair when they break. Also the Evo 1-4 engines suffer from "Crank Walk" it is a design fault in them. So prepare for a Bottom end repair if you get an old one.Evo's 5 and 6's are coming down in price, but still out my price range :-(Crank walk explained: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rednose Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 replacing parts for them can be expensive, they are def good fun but ugly compared 2 a statlet imo ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fro Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I love pulsars, never owned one though. My mate swapped his civic for one, it was suppose to be standard but it pissed all over our mates tuned impreza (was maybe just a shit impreza!) but when i quized him why none of the front end lined up properly, then his insurance foned him to tell him it had been previously written off he sold it. Hes dying for another one though.Id definately consider one if i didnt have my gt, tho as mentioned above gearboxes are like chocolate with lots of power Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryno Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Ryno, link to your Bro's please..........I have to disagree with Ryno slightly, Evo's although more reliable, cost a fucking FORTUNE to repair when they break. Also the Evo 1-4 engines suffer from "Crank Walk" it is a design fault in them. So prepare for a Bottom end repair if you get an old one.--> LINK <--yeah they do have their pros and cons, but like Pulsars with gearboxs, RX7's with rebuilds and evo 5/6's are riddled with their problems belive me!! but there are more evo specialists and parts are much easier to get hold of then pulsars these days!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy1 Posted December 11, 2008 Author Share Posted December 11, 2008 Crank walk explained: Ha Ha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy1 Posted December 11, 2008 Author Share Posted December 11, 2008 --> LINK <--yeah they do have their pros and cons, but like Pulsars with gearboxs, RX7's with rebuilds and evo 5/6's are riddled with their problems belive me!! but there are more evo specialists and parts are much easier to get hold of then pulsars these days!!!your bros car looks like a good deal,about the same price as a good starbo if its gonna cost a grand to insure tho...i'll have to check with my insurer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryno Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 ohh my god!! it's ALIVE!!!!cheers Hairy1, obviously that was before the arse fell out of the second hand car market so he might be a bit more flexible on the price if anyone is interested! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lisurngt Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 i was goin to sell mine for a pulsar about 3 months ago, having a ral good think about it the best car between them is the starlet hands down. a pulsar is easy to squeeze extra bhp from but gearboxes are a once in 3 months sort of barrier if you thrash them around to much with to much power. the only option would be to buy one with a good box., sumthing like a quaiffe but these cost a f**kin fortune. dont get me wrong i would love to have one, they really are ferrari killers, i drove one with 340bhp when i was looking to buy and its was INSANE!!!!, but theres just something about the starlet that i would miss if i sold her..... Now shes my new project.very good luck with the choice mate, but if you go for 1 make sure its a good 1.... hope u make the right choice..just my opinion guys not everyones im sure.. cheers... jamie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedFreak Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 I was looking at swapping my Glanza with my mates Pulsar a few months ago, but decided against it after reading peoples comments on them. And then the fact I need the car every day and it would cost so much for fuel!But I love the cars, and my friend had one which was bloody quick and he never had any issues with it at all and he had it for 1.5years. But knowing my luck, it would brake in a week!I didnt have the money to spend on keep fixing one if it did go wrong. Im looking at getting an Evo 5 now, next year some time. The insurance on a Pulsar GTiR for me was £600 fully comp, 21 with 3ncb. Evo 2 or 3 was £1800! Evo 5 will be £900 as of January. I suppose you need to look at whether you would have spare cash to spend on fixing things like the gear box if it did go wrong. A Starlet is definatly alot cheap to run and tax etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryno Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Ryno, your Bro's car looks great. Not really wanting a black one but if the price was right I would snap it up. How flexable is his price on NissanGTiR? Would I be better PM'ing him on there? If my car goes this weekend there might be a chance I'd come down in 1 or 2 weeks for it.will let him know your interested and see what he says ..but gearboxes are a once in 3 months sort of barrier if you thrash them around to much with to much power..if your doing that in a Pulsar then forget about buying a performance car or you'll no doubt have to replace brakes, tyres, clutches every 3 months too from your driving style!the gearbox problem is really over-hyped, i'm not saying it dosn't happen... but don't subarus have chocolate pistons? and french cars have tinfoil pannels.. and italian cars have bad electrics........but decided against it after reading peoples comments on them. And then the fact I need the car every day and it would cost so much for fuel!...I didnt have the money to spend on keep fixing one if it did go wrong. Im looking at getting an Evo 5 now, next year some time.don't belive everything you read on forums mate, most people who post have little or no experience on what they are talking about.... like when i had a 16yr old tell me not to buy a GT because they always go pop because a 1.3 can't safely handly boost! also if your thinking that a evo is going to be any less then a Pulsar to run then you might want to re-think getting one, and thats coming from someone that has not eaten for a few days to afford running costs when times were hard a few months back! Like most high performance cars, having a small budget means you'll struggle. Starlets are cheap to run and stuff which means you can have on on a shoe string budget. Things like Pulsar's, Evo's, 200sx's, Scoobies, RX-7's, GT4's etc need alot more money to play with.+1, sometimes i miss my starlet, usually every 6months when the service for the evo comes round! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedFreak Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Most of what I hear about Pulsars is from owners/previous owners. I don't listen to people who havent ever had one, cause they go by what they hear!My bloke has an Evo 3, so I know how much they cost to run. Certainly not cheap, but something I would rather have and waste money on over a Pulsar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy1 Posted December 12, 2008 Author Share Posted December 12, 2008 I was looking at swapping my Glanza with my mates Pulsar a few months ago, but decided against it after reading peoples comments on them. And then the fact I need the car every day and it would cost so much for fuel!But I love the cars, and my friend had one which was bloody quick and he never had any issues with it at all and he had it for 1.5years. But knowing my luck, it would brake in a week!I didnt have the money to spend on keep fixing one if it did go wrong. Im looking at getting an Evo 5 now, next year some time. The insurance on a Pulsar GTiR for me was £600 fully comp, 21 with 3ncb. Evo 2 or 3 was £1800! Evo 5 will be £900 as of January. I suppose you need to look at whether you would have spare cash to spend on fixing things like the gear box if it did go wrong. A Starlet is definatly alot cheap to run and tax etc.quoted the same £600ish with some mods and breakdown cover for pulsar,i have some testdrives lined up in the near future so we'll have to see which i prefer,after all i didnt buy my gt with my head at the time!anyone know if theres a workshop manual for the pulsar? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy1 Posted December 12, 2008 Author Share Posted December 12, 2008 There is mate but look atwww.gtiroc.com and www.nissangtir.comThey are your OC's for the car.cheers will-do Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kara GTT Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Hiya mateI've got a starlet gt turbo and my fellas got a R(pulsar) both are very good carsBuy a pulsar if you have deep pockets,they love engines and gearboxes altough my fellas got a dacar gearbox which is a rally rb specI've got to say though has soon has i pass by test its good bye to the starlet and hello pulsar!Do not buy a SUBARU!!!!!!!!!!!! Get your self on gtiroc or nissan modifiersHow much you looking at spending on one??Our mates just sold a mint r toohttp://www.gtiroc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54063heres my felas pulsar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimmy77 Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 i add a pulsar and tuned it to bout 300bhp but the reliabilty was terrible the gear box went the lot always had my hand in my back poketbut the starlet is faultless in my eyes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mikey Jay Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Just slow and expensive to tune! LOLQuicker and cheaper to tune than an n/a Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hairy1 Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 Hiya mateI've got a starlet gt turbo and my fellas got a R(pulsar) both are very good carsBuy a pulsar if you have deep pockets,they love engines and gearboxes altough my fellas got a dacar gearbox which is a rally rb specI've got to say though has soon has i pass by test its good bye to the starlet and hello pulsar!Do not buy a SUBARU!!!!!!!!!!!! Get your self on gtiroc or nissan modifiersHow much you looking at spending on one??Our mates just sold a mint r toohttp://www.gtiroc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54063heres my felas pulsarnice ride,i'd have to have a black one too-its the law!lookin2 spend around 3-4k preferably with some gearbox/brake mods already donetried annother gt the other day but it just didnt seem to be as fun as my old one despite having more mods ,dunno maybe i just miss mine otherwise time 4 a change?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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