Steve GT Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Ok heres a quick questionTaking the advice of people saying get a uprated ECU instead of FPR's FCD's and setting it up on a RR i also want a better turboso if im to purchase a Hybrid Turbo can i do it with my standard EP82 engine or is it likely to blow the bolox off itso can i keep it standard or is it advisable to get a rebuildthanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
p15tle Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Ok heres a quick questionTaking the advice of people saying get a uprated ECU instead of FPR's FCD's and setting it up on a RR i also want a better turboso if im to purchase a Hybrid Turbo can i do it with my standard EP82 engine or is it likely to blow the bolox off itso can i keep it standard or is it advisable to get a rebuildthanksyou shoul b ok as long as your not running high boost always mate lyk 1.1bar + over. if u plan 2 do that best adive i think wud b forged internalsp15 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ToddiGlanzaV Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 You wont need a rebuild if you run sensible boost mate. A good ecu with a good tune should see you alrite Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve GT Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 was only thinking of running about 1.o0 bar in high boost anywaywill a uprated ECU eliminate the fuel cut off definiatly then??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ToddiGlanzaV Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Sure would mate Kind of ecu you thinking of getting? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
p15tle Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 get an HKS Fcon gold hahaha ther lyk £1200+ more matejam racing wud b a good 1 p15 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve GT Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 well awt really if i could bloody find one lolapart from the odd one kicking around forums i cant find one anywhereany ideas???cheers mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ToddiGlanzaV Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 If u go e manage then you wont be disappointed.its maybe worth speaking to Nick Jones at tuning developments, he knows his stuff and could give you prices and more info etc...The Jam ecu is a self learning ecu, but they sell for 400 quid maybe more, personally i would go for e manage over that as you get a full tune to suit your car. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5T4R7ET N/A Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 would a blitz piggy back E.C.U be good enuff. And will it get reid of fuel cut etc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
p15tle Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 eh try ebay mate, or yahoo jap auctions. or u culd type it in google and find a place that sells thm culd be expesive tho. post a thred up askin if anyone has a good ecu 2 sell u mate or they culd tell u where to get 1. good luk mate p15 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve GT Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 cheers lads been a big helpil look around for one and when i find one il ask advice on here seems the best thing to do Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pav Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 would a blitz piggy back E.C.U be good enuff. And will it get reid of fuel cut etcThe Blitz ones arent piggy back ecus, they are standalone units that replace the standard ecu. Jam, Blitz, Sard, Zep etc ecus are all similar in working, they all remove the factory fuel cut limiter and have sufficient fuel maps for well over 1 bar (many have run over a bar on forged engines and bigger injectors with such ecus). The ignition map is also tweaked (Blitz one is very good) and top speed limiter is removed, plus the rev limiter is raised. I'm not sure why they do this, possibly to allow for larger turbos which have a powerband higher up in the rev range. They are very versatile ecus but having them checked on the rolling road is a good plan to make sure there are no holes in the map or conflictions with your setup. Also, from experience I recommend a Blitz Access over a Jam Ecu, I've had both and the blitz is far more aggressive it seems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve GT Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 Brilliantanyone know where to get a Blitz access if i cant find one on a forum etcdo any shops or websites sell em???? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5T4R7ET N/A Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 ^^ but they cost alot more aswell. some people cant afford to have them. And they haved to be mapped which costs even more. But you will get more power from your engine with e manage than the blitz. It really depends on your budget. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve GT Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 Yer that seems truebut money wise there going to cost in all well over the 000's mark arn't they??so up to about 500quid now will the blitz one be better then eventually when I've done things like better turb6 FMIC etc etc eventually upgrade to an E-Manage??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve GT Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 brill your a legend thanksand nah after a full system the next job is FMIC really dont like the intercooler sat on top of the engine lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Glanza-Love Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Youll notice a difference with the fmic.. i love mines! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pav Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I understand what your saying, but an e-manange professionally mapped will do FAR more than buying an off the shelf ECU with a "safe" map. Just my opinion.I talked to Nick Jones about this. He said that for a hybrid setup, there would be very little gains to be had using an emanage over a Blitz Access. But I do see you're point about a safe map. Most plugin Jap ecus run very safely and I have yet to see one cause engine failure at 1 bar as a result of a "bad" map.When you start running high hp figures (when you forge and run a much larger turbo), I can defo see the need for an emanage, but 90% of the plugin ecus available for the starlet are mapped for a CT9 so if you're going hybrid theyre a good option imo and cheaper.Nick Jones does some very good deals on emanages plus fitting and road mapping, you're looking at around £5-600 for one fully mapped. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pav Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 ^^ but they cost alot more aswell. some people cant afford to have them. And they haved to be mapped which costs even more. But you will get more power from your engine with e manage than the blitz. It really depends on your budget.I have a friend who went from a blitz access to an Apexi power fc mapped by a competent tuner. They eeked another 7hp over the blitz, thats just an example of how much the gains can be over a Blitz or Jam ecu. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pav Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Youll notice a difference with the fmic.. i love mines!+1 FMICs ftw! Massive difference over a topmount Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve GT Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 so where do i find this Nick Jones then and where is he based and has he gt a Website Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pav Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 so where do i find this Nick Jones then and where is he based and has he gt a Websitehttp://www.tuningdevelopments.co.uk/http://74.55.13.198/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=64There ya go matey Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 so if im to purchase a Hybrid Turbo can i do it with my standard EP82 engine or is it likely to blow the bolox off itso can i keep it standard or is it advisable to get a rebuildthanksThought you done the bottom end already? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dstillie Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I have a blitz access ecu here great condition works amazing and it for sale! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Glanza ECU is different to the EP82 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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