garbla900 Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 is any one else on here fed up with this first refusal rubbish as some of you will have seen my we rant i felt i needed to explain and put this up on here as i apperar to be getting ignored.i posted up on somthing that was on sale since march that was for sale asking if it was still for sale as some people dont update if stuff been sold which is fair enough being busy and forgetting stuff like that is normal. any way posted ( on the for sale thread not a pm)and asked if that was still for sale was told yes. when i posted in it again after some one said somthing else on the thread i was told that i basicly had secons on it. i know it hapens all the time but cumon i just feel this is a sneaky way of doing things p'ming polpole on the sly when i was obviously intrested in buying and it being sold to someone else after yuo asked about it but before you could pay. i know im not a moderator or one of the people that posts a million a month but just because i dont post dosent mean that im not reading about it all and keeping up with the threads that i enjoy but i can see it happening on here and i think its a bit underhanded and i personally wont be inforcing it on the stuff i have for sale on here and on my own website that i run.sorry for having another rant but i was in the mood. i mean no harm by this and i am not directing this to anyone inperticular so please keep the slaggin of me to min plz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Enzo Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 sorry i find that random. im not sure i follow what your saying here.could you give me an example of what you mean Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Asad Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Have to agree with him there.....the thread hes talking abouthttp://www.ukstarletclub.com/forums/index....c=18717&hl=Again, here i registered interest on the BMC and idrees actually called dibs on it within 33min of TSP posting up and only two people actually registering interest on the BMC in the thread he announced it had gone (dont want to offend geo mate but its an example of what garbla is trying to say) http://www.ukstarletclub.com/forums/index....c=17772&hl=not too sure what went on here but it seems at first the two decent people who wanted the item and registered interest on the thread didnt get it then who was it sold too? ("secret" pm`s rings a bell) now the items up for sale again. Why couldn`t it have gone to the decent lads in the first place? Atleast if we knew who the let down person was, mabe we could watch out in the future....but erm they just sent "secret" pmshttp://www.ukstarletclub.com/forums/index....showtopic=19083 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Enzo Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 no offence taken, i still dont see what the problem is ithink ive been awake too long today.in the post you highlighted about the bmcs, i had sent a pm as soon as the post went up wanting to buy, so i dont understand whats going on is it not first come first sirve or am i missing the point here,been up for hours driving and a right red bull buz on the go so please explain again if you can? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Enzo Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 now you have added another link, instead of posting up in the forsale thred, perhaps when you see the for sale add pm the seller, thats the first and quickest form of contact is it not?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Asad Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 All im saying, is for everyone to first register interest on the item and not just send "secret" pms so all members know whats going on, and can make other arrangements if they really needed the item ( in garblas case) like on ebay selling offline isnt allowed (protects buyer and what not) and everything has to go through the site so if anything goes wrong there are rules protecting the buyer...hope it kinda makes sense? its hard to explain it lol thing is if everyone bashed out pms no1 would know who it has been sold to, this would also confuse the seller Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Enzo Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 no, i understand what your saying now.but dont really agree, if i want to by something, or say from gumtree or add trader or auto trader i contact the seller, i dont register interest in the item,in the forsale template contact method usualy says via pm . . . . one of your example states this, and im sure thats how tsls started out as aswellso to say sly secret pms i dont agree with Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Asad Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 so, everyone should just pm? and who ever is lucky enough to get it gets it? even tho the seller might be greedy and sell it to the last person because they offered more even is first person offered the right ammount as stated in the for sale thread?Its really hard to explain the feeling that.....you stated in the thread you want something and sent a pm yet the items already sold to an anonymous person or dib-ed so you have to wait or get second call. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MadMan Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 theres a bit of software out i have saw forums use before it might of been mgzr one but it pretty much like a selling tool attacted to all the items so who ever clicks buy and pays 1st gets it and it had like a best offer button kinda like a mini ebay buy it noe/best offer thing and it gave the seller feedback to so other people knew and felt confident to use them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WallaceGlanza Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I can understand the points Garbla and Asad are making but in my eyes its a simple fact of first come first served, nothing to do with sneaky pm's or anything.If I want something that's for sale I will always pm the person first, I might not even make a post in the thread as why should I? I don't need everyong else seeing what I'm buying. Its not good if the seller promises the item to somebody then sells it to someone else or sells it for more than he/she was asking for it but thats not what's happening in the cases above, as Jay said money talks (and I say that from a buyers and sellers viewpoint), if you want something say so, don't just ask if the item is available - tell the seller you'll have it if it is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SiCaln Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I am sorry if I have annoyed you mate, I dont feel it is underhand to pm people first to register interest, for after all you did it too 4mins after Idrees, I always check my pms before I check the postsSorry on this occasion you lost out mate, could've easily gone the other way though Quote Link to post Share on other sites
garbla900 Posted April 10, 2009 Author Share Posted April 10, 2009 like i say i ment no disrespect and was not aiming it at u bud i can appreciate that he pm'd u before i did fair enough hes won it. its just frustrating as i dont often pm peps as ive not got a lot to say most of the time so postingmy intrest up dident work this time but if i c somthing i want from now on im just pm'ing peps as i always seem to get beat out of stuff on here and gt turbo just unlucky i guess Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SiCaln Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Yea sadly it does seem to be a quicker way to do it, all the best for future purchases on both sites - fastest finger wins im afraid man, lost out myself many a time too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spoonz Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 wen i broke my car i clearly stated who ever PM's 1st has 1st dibs has i got tired of seein people sayin 1st dibs which usually shows real interest for them to then never send a pm and never wan tthe item and like many others i check my pms 1st no tthe thread,I know your annoyed mate but if i was selling the item and some1 had PM'd me before u they get priorty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Galliano Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Should be a first come first serve basis IMO.Though first dibs is an idea if its via PM as then you have a commitment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
garbla900 Posted April 14, 2009 Author Share Posted April 14, 2009 ok i do agree there after seeing that the is alot of 'tyre kickers' ive just had experiance. like ive stated in every post im not wanting to cause any hastle and mean no disrespect to anyone on here. as i find this my third home after mine and my new birds house lol. but i can see all point made by other members. just pissed me off at the time and had to vent my frustration. but like sical said indrees got there first. so fair enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Idrees Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Sorry about the confusion dude. I always PM when buying parts because its quicker and the seller is likely to read it quicker.by the way its Idrees not Indrees. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
garbla900 Posted April 15, 2009 Author Share Posted April 15, 2009 sorry bud was trying to do it from memory. epic fail !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Idrees Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Lol, no probs mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 This has just happened to me..its rather annoyin and mine was only for a cheap item..I reckon people should post saying the have pm'd so other people know where they stand? just my thought Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Galliano Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 Its sentimental value that counts But thats a really good idea, i think it should be a forum rule - state that you have PM'd just to let others know that if they PM too, they wont be the first and think they have bought something. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 i know it may seem childish winging about it..but it obviously annoys a few people and its a simple change 2 make and should hopefully stop people getting disappointed.What do the admins/mods think? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SiCaln Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 not always gna work tho, because I always check my pms before my posts and if someone in a pm wants it (whether they say theyv pm'd me or not) theyr gna get it if they have the reddies Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Galliano Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 Si, i dont think you grasped it, what he means is if someone posts up saying they have pm'd the seller, the other potential buyers will know that they are second in line in a first come first serve community (if that works)Then the buyer sells it to the first PM they have had - should the sell fall through - sell to second, and so on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andy.i Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 what confusion over nothing Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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