silverglanza Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 how much do you guys pay for a fully forged motor if going over 200bhp just out of interest Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 All depends, you can get one built by the likes of TM Developments for £1850 plus your old engine in return IIRC.Thats a engine rebuilt from the ground up including the head, with all new valve stem seals, water and oil pump all new gaskets etc.But you could build a forged bottom end for about £1000 maybe less depending on where you get the parts and what parts you use. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Philm Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 yeah you need to be budgeting200 for machinework. (rebore/polished crank/skimmed block)150 hg650 rods and pistons100 for ACL bearings80ish for a full engine gasket kit80 oil pump30 headboltsas you can see thats around 1300, with going over the top on uprated cams valve springs reground crank lightened flywheel blueprinted bootom end or choosing any of the expensive internals, go for pauter rods and je pistons and you will be staring 1grand before you even buy anything else. AND it doesnt account for paying anynoe to build the engine.sealer assembly paste engine stand engine oil/oil filters for the run in.it will easily owe you the best part of 3grand before your finished, especially if something goes wrong.but goodluck, sometimes these things go like clockwork and do it with a bare minimum attitude and something will go pearshaped.take your time, buy ALL the parts before hand(after finding someont to build the engine for you and choose the parts on there recommendation)Phil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve GT Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 getting it done by tm or a company as well they will chemically clean it too. they start from the bottom and rebuild it from start to finish with all new forged parts. very worth it in my opinion rather than doing it yaself. atleast you know its been done by professionals Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Philm Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 getting it done by tm or a company as well they will chemically clean it too. they start from the bottom and rebuild it from start to finish with all new forged parts. very worth it in my opinion rather than doing it yaself. atleast you know its been done by professionals the machineshop will stick the block/head in to a chemical washer once the machine work is done, so if you do the build yourself the engine will still be chemically cleaned. if you want to know whats in your engine, you will need to buy the parts yourself and and watch someone else build it for you.Phil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
silverglanza Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share Posted December 22, 2009 lol well thats a bit of a bill im thinkin of about 180 to 200 atw ill be happy with that defo but i do like the name td04 setup Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 180atw is achievable on a stock engine, seen a thread on TGTT the otherday some people overseas have run 320atw on stock internals as a daily driver and constantly running 11sec quarter milesIt all depends on the set up and how well you maintain it at the end of the day Quote Link to post Share on other sites
timbo8 Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 I'm very new to all this and have just joined this club but would it not be easyer to put a biger engine in, whitch was going to be my question i have an 1985 starlet and she has a good body on her and i think can be something quite special.Is this a possabilaty putting a biger engine in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Amjad Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 I'm very new to all this and have just joined this club but would it not be easyer to put a biger engine in, whitch was going to be my question i have an 1985 starlet and she has a good body on her and i think can be something quite special.Is this a possabilaty putting a biger engine in.Some people have used components of the 1.5 5efe engine from the Paseo and 1.5 5efhe engine from the Cynos & Sera to build forged Turbo engines..I believe a member over on tgtt has a 2.0L 3sgte engine engine in a GT Turbo..but that's probably quite an expensive and long-winded route.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
silverglanza Posted January 2, 2010 Author Share Posted January 2, 2010 180atw is achievable on a stock engine, seen a thread on TGTT the otherday some people overseas have run 320atw on stock internals as a daily driver and constantly running 11sec quarter milesIt all depends on the set up and how well you maintain it at the end of the day so what you mean sparky on a stock motor no mods at all except remap 180 is doable ? or other wise what simple mod would you say you would need i was thinking of doin this tmic rx-7full system mani and turbo cat fcdrelocated air filter maybe a fuel pressure regulatormagnacore lead and iridum plugs?then a remap with say a good named ecu Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Russleh Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 he meant stock engine. as in internaly. be pretty suprised if you could remap the standard car to that. would be a popular option lol. also debating with myself whether to take on a rebuild myself or save up 2k for tmd to do it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jae-Glanza Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Yea, sparky meant that with standard engine (non forged) with all the supporting mods like, cooler/exhaust/filter/ecu etc, plus increasing the boost on the turbo. then 180atw is achievable =] Quote Link to post Share on other sites
glanza_gemz Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 he meant stock engine. as in internaly. be pretty suprised if you could remap the standard car to that. would be a popular option lol. also debating with myself whether to take on a rebuild myself or save up 2k for tmd to do it.u should have a chat with jobo this is what he wants to do!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tyron Devine Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 getting it done by tm or a company as well they will chemically clean it too. they start from the bottom and rebuild it from start to finish with all new forged parts. very worth it in my opinion rather than doing it yaself. atleast you know its been done by professionals so do you have to buy all the parts ureself plus give them the 1850 for them to rebuild it lol stupid qwestion ino im just confused haha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Idrees Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 so do you have to buy all the parts ureself plus give them the 1850 for them to rebuild it lol stupid qwestion ino im just confused hahaNo, they will include the parts at that price. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
starlet-glanza-v Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 Yea they have all the parts u just pay the 1850 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tyron Devine Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 No, they will include the parts at that price.o ok isnt to bad then what kind of power would u be looking at for spending the 1850 do they include the turbo ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
starlet-glanza-v Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 nah that dont include turbo, just engine forged Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iamlegend Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 tbh you do no need to go forged the stock engine will easily take big turbo kit set ups. as said as long as it has been tuned correctly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bean Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 Thanks just the bare engine forged. no turbo or anything like that. ive got mine one sitting in my garage waiting Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daz gt turbz Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 Thanks just the bare engine forged. no turbo or anything like that. ive got mine one sitting in my garage waiting you realy need to get that put in fella because i want a go in it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Asad Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 Tbh it's all about the capabilities of your mapper and the management you choose it's been said and discussed before a guy from australia got 200bhp frm a 4efe using a td04? Just goes to show it doesn't have to be forged allthough the engine was pulled apart after abitmost people tend to go for the cheaper scat rods which are apparantly heavy in weight compared to other rods n wiesco pistons again the cheapest forged pistons around Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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