ste91 Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Is this a genuine race? Is it really that quick?/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHUBo2h18s0&feature=mfu_in_order&list=ULCheck the channel for the other vids if you haven't seen them, it's fucking mental. (And Geo is a joker lol!)I take it that it's a 100bhp 4EFE with the exhaust/manifold/cams from Joz's old 5EFHE build? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Amjad Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 This is the one I like, bouncing off the limiter lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ste91 Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 I was just checking the vids and there's the white one aswell, was the white one written off and the engine transplanted into this one? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Amjad Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Yessir Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Enzo Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Is this a genuine race? Is it really that quick?aye its nuts, thanx for the link, shows you dont need a turbo ep to get kicks, its at 720 od kgs,want to get more video footage in the car as it stands the now, but crails not until the fith, aiming for a high 14 pass and il be gutted/shocked if it doesnt do it.the six speed is ace, id recomend anyone to get one, totaly gets rid of the dull top end performance of any ep, the accelerations almost the same at the top end as it is getting there and it will go rite up to the limiter in sixth,since ive built it ive not taken it out much but I've pulled on an ep3 type r top end on the motorway and also destroyed an ek4 vti on the edinburgh cb(boys were well apreceating)i know thats not big or nothing to brag about but pretty shit hot for what it is.was so amense taking it for a rag after building all the car up, with the ud puly and flywheel blipping the throttles a lot quicker if that makes sense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Enzo Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 I take it that it's a 100bhp 4EFE with the exhaust/manifold/cams from Joz's old 5EFHE build?ye the spec isjdm 4efe bottom end, recond 5efhe head with camsjdm 4efe manifold, and tb6 speed corolla g6r gearboxlightened flywheellight weight ud pully4-1 headersfujibutsu 2" exhauststripped, front and rear bracespu engine mounts Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ste91 Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 When you say it will do a high 14 that gives me a good idea of how quick it really is for a 1.3, there's a lad round by me with a 106 Quicksilver with a GTi engine, not sure what power it's running but that did a 14.7 I think and it kills most things round here.So for a 1.3 that's seriously quick.It makes me want another Starlet now lol, I'd love to build a similar engine and put it in a stripped and lightened EP91 shell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Amjad Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Geo I'm thinking of getting my flywheel lightened on my NA as I'm replacing the clutch, is it worthwhile? And is there anything I should know before going about doing it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nanglebadger Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 thats insane!!!! just took off as if it had a tubby in there!!! class!sleeper squad FTW!Phil. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scottyb Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 i think ill have to come to crail to have a look at this lol. might take mine down the strip too, every time im there i get an itch to do it lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ste91 Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 Geo I'm thinking of getting my flywheel lightened on my NA as I'm replacing the clutch, is it worthwhile? And is there anything I should know before going about doing it?The revs will rise faster but also fall faster too, so for instance when you let your foot off the throttle and just roll along, the revs will drop quicker than usual whereas a standard flywheel will keep spinning and carry you along a bit more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ste91 Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 (edited) @ Geo - have you toyed with the idea of any more engine mods? Wilder cams and higher rev limit? Would be interesting to see how this fares against a 4AGE Starlet, but it would be hard to judge as obviously you can say the bigger engine is going to have more torque but it's offset by how light this Starlet is!I love the 4EFE but is there any reason you went for the 4EFE over a 5EFHE? Edited January 22, 2012 by ste91 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bucketep91 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Because the jdm engine came with 100ps from the factory. Check out geos build thread on the white 1 ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ste91 Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 (edited) I know the JDM 4EFE came with 100ps, what I mean was the 5EFHE may have been a better starting point as it already has 110ps and revs quite high, so instead of having to change cams and whatever you could simply bolt on the other mods and away you go.I suppose you have to change the ECU/wiring loom with one of those though.Not doubting the 4EFE, just interested to see why he used a 4EFE bottom end when there are 5EFHE parts out there (Joz's build was pretty much a 5EFHE wasn't it?) Edited January 22, 2012 by ste91 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Enzo Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 I'm thinking of getting my flywheel lightened on my NA as I'm replacing the clutch, is it worthwhile?probably not + im warry of skimming, doesnt it weeken it?imoif its a 91 id see about swapping the gearbox with a 4efe corolla box, there relatively cheep, has lower 4.3 final drive, yea so that, your skimmed flywheel + ud pully, taking a couple of kilos off the crank at the same time, ud defo feel a noticable difference with that.but tbh itl never be as fast as an 82 theres a good 120+ kilos difference straight away, the eye opener was the 2e 12valve engine that was in it before with 75bhp was much faster than any 4efe 91 ive had..have you toyed with the idea of any more engine mods? Wilder cams and higher rev limit? I love the 4EFE but is there any reason you went for the 4EFE over a 5EFHE?happy with the way it is the now, to be honest, couldent justify spending anything else on it, bought the kudos for 200 quid with 170,000 miles on the clock, was in a rush to get it up and running, its ruff but sorta adds to the apeal of driving it. more transfixed on the weight, thats where most of the speeds coming from.ive got gutted doors and a gutted hatch, ive got another na bonnet skin, if i could get a proper perspex window kit with that lot im sure i can dip under 6**kilos,that version of 4efe is bullet proof, more hardcore than the uk 4efe which can also take a beating, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ste91 Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 That weight is ridiculous, classic Mini's only weight 6XX something kg so you can appreciate how light it is.I bet you're sick of the "is it a turbo" questions though lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Amjad Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 probably not + im warry of skimming, doesnt it weeken it?imoif its a 91 id see about swapping the gearbox with a 4efe corolla box, there relatively cheep, has lower 4.3 final drive, yea so that, your skimmed flywheel + ud pully, taking a couple of kilos off the crank at the same time, ud defo feel a noticable difference with that.but tbh itl never be as fast as an 82 theres a good 120+ kilos difference straight away, the eye opener was the 2e 12valve engine that was in it before with 75bhp was much faster than any 4efe 91 ive had..Most of my money is going on the GT so don't wanna bother with a box change. I'm only looking to do something to make a bit of difference as the NA's needing a clutch change.I've done a bit of reading around I'm sure a decent place could take some off within the strength limits of the fly. Where can I get an Underdrive pulley? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EP_YOGI Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 This is epic mate, i wish there was more people like you around my area! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
morgey Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Think this thing would be quicker than mine until I sort out my sh*te gearbox, gearings far too long in mine really dies in 4th gear compared to this thing, its imense!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hough39 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 probably not + im warry of skimming, doesnt it weeken it?imoif its a 91 id see about swapping the gearbox with a 4efe corolla box, there relatively cheep, has lower 4.3 final drive, yea so that, your skimmed flywheel + ud pully, taking a couple of kilos off the crank at the same time, ud defo feel a noticable difference with that.but tbh itl never be as fast as an 82 theres a good 120+ kilos difference straight away, the eye opener was the 2e 12valve engine that was in it before with 75bhp was much faster than any 4efe 91 ive had..Funny you should say that about the 2e 12valve my brother said the exact same thing about his 2e seeming alot faster than the 4efehappy with the way it is the now, to be honest, couldent justify spending anything else on it, bought the kudos for 200 quid with 170,000 miles on the clock, was in a rush to get it up and running, its ruff but sorta adds to the apeal of driving it. more transfixed on the weight, thats where most of the speeds coming from.ive got gutted doors and a gutted hatch, ive got another na bonnet skin, if i could get a proper perspex window kit with that lot im sure i can dip under 6**kilos,that version of 4efe is bullet proof, more hardcore than the uk 4efe which can also take a beating, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Enzo Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 you goin for a six speed morgey ?@amjadtbh i really wouldn't bother dude the difference would be negligable.ud pully was from trader on tersel forum Quote Link to post Share on other sites
morgey Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 you goin for a six speed morgey ?mines fubar'd loosing shed loads of power thru it most people recon they loose 25-30hp mines 45hp if the dyno readings were anywhere near acurate!so looking for a 5spd lsd from a ae111 but they are imposible to come by, i did however find one on jap yahoo auctions. full trd gearset 4.312 final drive etc.... starting bid £1236 errmm ill pass hahanot sure if the 6 speed would fit in my bay either, if its got a bigger casing on the 5th-6th gear end of the box then it wont, but the 6th gear on the ae boxes is apparently a real weak gear aswel! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Enzo Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 i think thats partly a stigma, big power might present a problem but u get them on the 2zzz which has 30bhp more than u and aye the casing is the samefinal drives from the c series boxes fit if your after the 4.3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
morgey Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 After seeing yours im tempted by it, is your box from a 4e or 4a? Guessing the 4e, but im guessing the levin 6spds differ from the 2zz and 4e ones, everyone has trouble with them on forums :/I mite just get a 6spd n a 4.3 f/d n see about fitting a a/m lsd and maybe find a longer gear for 6th for cruising if its possible. One good thing about mine is I can do 80 at 3500rpm or less which makes it fairly eco on runs haha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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