Andymcm Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 bit bored tonight so thought id start up a thread to see what your thoughts are on this.on the look out for ep95 which will just be a daily driver til the funds are saved for the conversion, main question would be is it worth the effort and expense bulding a turbod 4paw or would most people just get a GT or glanza. i was convinced on doing it but few people have kinda made me think, struggling to find one too which doesnt help either hope to hear from some 4paw owners Quote Link to post Share on other sites
_shaun_ Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 id get a 4paw evertime i see one i have to fight the urge to buy it lol but since i have my glanza makes it even more awkward as id want to strip parts of mine meaning it would probaly cost more money in the long run Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shorty Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I loved both my v's and also my ep85. It all depends what your after tbh as the short ratio box anoyes the shit out of me! It revs its tits off at 80mph in 5th yes you could change all the ratios but its an expensive mod and isnt as simple as people think (you cant just bug gt gears in) my 4paw is a track car basicaly its not realy a parctical daily if you use motorways much. id settle for my v back if i was after a usable reliable(ish) fast car but as im an old man i am luckiy enough to have silly cheap insurace so have an import pop to the shops car, a 4paw track car and a works van lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigMan Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 what he said^^ i had the ep85 before he bought it and it wasnt the best for a daily driver so got a civic aint much better! and to be honest the mileage i was getting in a n/a ep85 4paw was worse on fuel than some of the turbo starlets that went to japfest last year! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andymcm Posted February 28, 2012 Author Share Posted February 28, 2012 I heard about the short ratio box and to be honest don't use motorways as often except the odd days getting to uni. I was settle on a ep95 to keep standard a while as insurance is silly money for a v or gt so was my plan to have it as a long time developing build to get turbod at some point. Would also prob be a advantage to me as living on top if a mountain is a understatement when snows about might as well be stranded for a few months lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andymcm Posted February 28, 2012 Author Share Posted February 28, 2012 The fuel consumption bit is a bit of an off put given the price of it at the min but still would hope it be worth it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shorty Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 They are good in a 4wd style enviroment tbh as i took mine greenlaning alot with turbo_grant. was wicked fun but i would say check the insurance first. as if its insured properly then they arnt actualy very cheap to insure as they are a rare import of unknown background to an insurer and then chuck in an engine conversion amd the fact that premium increase on a modified car is based on how much power over standard you have raised it by oem 4paw s model is 100hp so just an engine transplant is a 33hp gain straght away. not so cheap as youd think to insure.Dont get me wrong i dont want to put you off just think people see 4paws as a supper grippy monster starlet. and theres alot more to it. parts arnt all the same as the other starlets either and are bastard expensive from toyota Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andymcm Posted February 28, 2012 Author Share Posted February 28, 2012 Must get few quotes and see first, any recommendations of insurers for one ? Others were saying cause its not on insurers systems its classed as ep91 import n/a then ring them to get them to change the drive to 4wd, will call few places tomorrow and find out Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DevonGT Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I would say get one you won't regret it, I didn't. Much better then my last GT and the gearing isn't that bad, just swap 1st for a GT one and your'll have the same ratios as a GT box but with a shorter final drive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bean Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Dont get me wrong i dont want to put you off just think people see 4paws as a supper grippy monster starlet. and theres alot more to it. parts arnt all the same as the other starlets either and are bastard expensive from toyota What parts you on about shorty? Not that much Is different. I got all the bushes for the rear arb a while back and they were cheap as chips. I think Toyota parts are very reasonable, some odd stuff is silly but most I find is ok. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andymcm Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 Might get on as a garage project now and keep my n/a as a daily as the specialist companys I tryed today either don't insure or have reasonable prices for n.i, prob be best next year when am 21 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andymcm Posted March 10, 2012 Author Share Posted March 10, 2012 Well what you guys think, quite tempted by a red glanza in japan or should I hold out for a ep95, decisions decisions =/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_g Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Mate i've found two in japan/>http://www.modifiedcars-export-japan.jp/inventory/de0201138.html/>http://www.modifiedcars-export-japan.jp/inventory/de0201236.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andymcm Posted March 11, 2012 Author Share Posted March 11, 2012 That's mad prices for them too, wouldn't fancy paying that lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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