scutch0 Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 ok guys, i think a few of you are aware of my 98 glanza v's down on power situation, but for those who dont know, here goes:shortly after buying my glanza i drove a 97 glanza which was at the importers where i bought the car from, (the reason i drove it was because i wanted its suspension) it felt way faster and pulled much harder than my v, so i had a look and it turned out to be as standard as mine, ecu was standard, no decat ect.after that i heard that the 98-99 v had a restricted ecu, so i bought a 96 ecu fitted it and it made no difference even after letting the car reset.i have been trying things out and replacing parts in an attempt to find out the problem.i get very little wheelspin out of first gear when the clutch is fully engaged and none out of second unless im turning the wheel (no lsd). whereas glanza neil's car gets nothing but wheelspin out of first and some in second!the thing that has made me think that its still down on power is the fact that i had a bit of a drag with a 1.8 sri corsa c, and it was pulling away from me! even in second.surely i must have had the edge on him? geo thinks so and glanza neil on here used to have one and he says the glanza is much faster! ive fitted a manual boost controller currently running .8 bar, boost guage, new clutch, new dizzy cap and rotor arm, new denso genuine toyota plugs, gutted the cat, and fitted a custom 2 1/4 inch straight thru to the rear can exhaust system, all of which has improved it slightly but not as much as i thought.the car ticks over nicely, drinks not much oil, doesnt smoke, has done 66k and doesnt boost creep. does anyone have any suggestions as to what it might be?or what i can try, im gonna get it compression tested in the week and it'll be rolling roaded next month if all goes well, so if i dont find the problem maybe they can tell me.gimme some suggestions lads. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scutch0 Posted May 5, 2007 Author Share Posted May 5, 2007 unless its internal, no. checked all hoses off the intake mani,ive had the boostpipe off and cleaned, both tmic hoses have been replaced and ive replaced both sets of clips for heavier duty ones, throttlebody gasket is ok. it holds at a steady .8 bar so i dont think its leaking as it was leaking when i first got it which i sorted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shelly_star Posted May 6, 2007 Share Posted May 6, 2007 It's very hard to compare glanza's, i mean, SiCaln has a 98 spec one, have you tried asking him how his one is? My is boosting a steady 0.8bar but it doesnt pull as well on 3rd gear up, but1st and 2nd are excellent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Glanza_Ragger Posted May 6, 2007 Share Posted May 6, 2007 Alright mate.If your not leaking boost off, or blowing exhaust gases..And it idles and runs smoothly , i dont honestly know.Honestly i think youre going to have to have it rolling roaded, Compression test wont tell you much other than worn rings etc, which you would know any way because it would piss smoke.Make sure you get an air/fuel readout on the rolling road.If its leaning it may not pull as hard.. but you would feel it detting surely.This is a strange one.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scutch0 Posted May 6, 2007 Author Share Posted May 6, 2007 im still getting no closer......cheers anyway guys. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Edwards Posted May 6, 2007 Share Posted May 6, 2007 What fuel are you running it on? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
miracle411 Posted May 6, 2007 Share Posted May 6, 2007 Is it a cracked wastegate by any chance? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GeeUK Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Even thou the Glanza you drove was more or less stock, it still could of had the 1st-2nd boost restriction removed, which makes it pull better and boosts a couple of PSI more.Try it on yours. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Glanza_Ragger Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 I think rich has allready bypassed the 1st and 2nd gear boost restrictions... Havent you rich ?If not thats more than likely why your feeling a power loss.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shelly_star Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 does the 98 spec glanza's have gear restrictions? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Glanza_Ragger Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 all glanzas have restricted boost in 1st and 2nd gears shelly didnt yours have restricted boost? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scutch0 Posted May 9, 2007 Author Share Posted May 9, 2007 boost is de restricted.and it was de restricted on the V i drove. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mikey Jay Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 Ever considered it could be engine age?Have you tried putting in something like Ametech engine restorer?www.ametech.co.uk(can't be bothered to explain how it works)Have just ordered 500ml of it for the Paseo as it feels like it's missing a bit of kick.That plus an 11 year old engine probably has a fair amount of wear Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ecksjay Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 a bottle of wonder fluid wont change the engine entirely mikey, might clear some carbon deposits but certainly aint gonna create a transformation plus, his glanza is newer than most of ours being a 98 model, so if anyone needs it, its the 96 and earlier models you gonna be at any meets this year scutch? i'd be happy to let you test mine and vise versa to see if there is in fact a problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mikey Jay Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Riteo Ecks, was only suggesting as it might help a lil' bit.Should have some effect on the Seo, being a 1996 car.If not, will give me peace of mind and so on anyhoos Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scutch0 Posted May 10, 2007 Author Share Posted May 10, 2007 a bottle of wonder fluid wont change the engine entirely mikey, might clear some carbon deposits but certainly aint gonna create a transformation plus, his glanza is newer than most of ours being a 98 model, so if anyone needs it, its the 96 and earlier models you gonna be at any meets this year scutch? i'd be happy to let you test mine and vise versa to see if there is in fact a problem.yeah, i figured that being a newer engine it should be in better nick!possibly, was coming to jae, but it looks like i have holiday booked over it... what other meets are gonna be about this year?@ rick: dunno if a cracked wastegate would cause that... maybe, i havent had the turbo off to check! anyone got any ideas? it holds .8 bar perfectly or if its warm outside it sits at .75 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scutch0 Posted May 11, 2007 Author Share Posted May 11, 2007 the exhaust fumes currently stink of fuel....could the lamda sensor be bringing it down on power?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Edwards Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 the exhaust fumes currently stink of fuel....could the lamda sensor be bringing it down on power??Entirely possible yes, see if you can borrow someone elses for a day or so and see if it makes a difference. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Edwards Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 What fuel are you running it on?????????? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scutch0 Posted May 14, 2007 Author Share Posted May 14, 2007 sorry bud, i run it on esso super with a bottle of octane boost. i also ran it on v power for a while but i didnt see a massive difference apart from mpg.i have a lamda on my spare cat, but its from a gt... are the connections the same?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WallaceGlanza Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 sorry bud, i run it on esso super with a bottle of octane boost. i also ran it on v power for a while but i didnt see a massive difference apart from mpg.i have a lamda on my spare cat, but its from a gt... are the connections the same??Yup, exactly the same. The lamda could well be shot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Edwards Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 There's your answer then, swap them over and see if it makes any difference to it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scutch0 Posted May 14, 2007 Author Share Posted May 14, 2007 will do Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Glanza_Ragger Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 I thought on the gt models, the lambda sensor is a 2wire type ?Glanzas run a single wired lambda probe. It will give false readings. I know thats true for the very early gt's , dont know about later quadlamp models. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scutch0 Posted May 15, 2007 Author Share Posted May 15, 2007 bugger, ok well does anyone think its likely to be the lamda? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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