Asad Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Ive spent the best part of a couple of hours looking for what to use as i want to try and retain the 14" griffin alloys i have at all costsso far ive come up with:ST165/early ST185 twin pots + carriersST165 celica disc re-drilled to 4 stud fitment 255/25mm3mm spacersi read that the jdm st165 came with 14" wheels originally...so would the carriers on the ST165 and early ST185 be different?is this all i need? i keep coming across stuff astra discs/bmw discs/extended nuts/spacers/rings to center the discs etc etcthe best guide i could find was this with 15" wheels/>http://www.toyotagtturbo.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-85384.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Idrees Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 You will need longer studs. The spacer fits between the disc and the hub, and you'd be lucky to get 3 turns of the wheel nut without longer studs. I'm not sure which set up fits behind 14s though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Asad Posted May 3, 2012 Author Share Posted May 3, 2012 think ive found the answer/>http://www.alltrac.net/specs/st165USAspecs.htmlit says the 14" alloys used were 6j mine are 5.5j.....would this make a difference?these studs be ok?/>http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toyota-Wheel-Stud-51mm-Long-/370478734765?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item564240ddad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james@cjperformance Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 id like to know this aswell as i have a set of 14 inch rays that i want to keep but need a brake upgrade due to the car being used for track :S Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keri-WMS Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Does this fit any of the 14's you're using? http://www.keri.co.uk/wms/4Pxxx-EP91-262_5mm-T20-rotated.pdf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Asad Posted May 3, 2012 Author Share Posted May 3, 2012 once printed what do i do with it mate ^ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turbo Grant Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 My twins were quite close to my rims. Is a chance they will fit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Asad Posted May 3, 2012 Author Share Posted May 3, 2012 on 14`s? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Idrees Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 I tried 14s on my old SR (some JDM wheels) and they didn't fit with Levin twin pots. There wasn't enough room for the clipper to squeeze in. Spacers wouldn't have helped either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Asad Posted May 3, 2012 Author Share Posted May 3, 2012 would it fit with some material shaved off the caliper? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keri-WMS Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 once printed what do i do with it mate ^This!would it fit with some material shaved off the caliper?Can be a very risky thing to do... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Idrees Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 would it fit with some material shaved off the caliper?I doubt it, but it may be worth a try. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Asad Posted May 3, 2012 Author Share Posted May 3, 2012 going to try the template out later@keri...how much off the caliper would cause it to be "risky" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keri-WMS Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Shaved off a WMS caliper (harsh!!!)....depends where from and how it's done.Shaved off someone elses caliper (Toyota I assume) - I can't comment! Removing any raised cast-in lettering is probably ok in 99% of cases but other than that... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keri-WMS Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Oh, I'll try and sort you guys out a template for the WMS 2-pot on Starlet standard 254x18 discs soon! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Asad Posted May 3, 2012 Author Share Posted May 3, 2012 it would most likely be on the outside of the caliper no where near any load bearing parts..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keri-WMS Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 it would most likely be on the outside of the caliper no where near any load bearing parts.....On WMS 4 pot or OEM 2-pots?The 262.5mm PDF I put up uses the same T20 caliper that all our Starlet kits so far use.However the WMS 2-pot (T10) one I mentioned for the 254mm proposed WMS kit is an opposed 2-piston, not a 2-piston slider like Toyota use. Our T10 caliper is like this: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Starbuck Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Oooooo..... Get that starlet standard disc kit sorted... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nanglebadger Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 i've always wondered about this too for my 14" Rays.be good to know what fits.Phil. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Asad Posted May 3, 2012 Author Share Posted May 3, 2012 oem twinpots keri, id never shave wms twinpots lolonly reason im looking at other revenues is the wms kit is far too expensive...and the t20 kit you do only costs a tad more....i thought there would more of a price variation when you put your intrest thread up for the t10`s but theres little between them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keri-WMS Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 True - the big advantage of the T10 are the lugs are closer togeither, so there's room to squeeze them onto the OEM disc and into smaller wheels. Sadly half the pistons doesn't mean they cost half as much to make! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Asad Posted May 3, 2012 Author Share Posted May 3, 2012 ill keep looking....the t10`s are the last resort lolany one know how different the 5.5J and 6j are? is 5mm or does mean something else? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Idrees Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 0.5" difference in width Amjad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Asad Posted May 3, 2012 Author Share Posted May 3, 2012 so the 6j is 12.7mm (0.5") wider when looking at it from the wheel nuts? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Idrees Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 It is the width of the actual rim, not the diameter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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