Fealscott Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 just done a manual conversion and i have bridged the plug from the old gearbox and it turns over but wont start i have connected everything up except the knock sensor which i am away to go and sort?seems like its not getting fuelany help appreciated Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AdamB Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Have you confirmed its not getting fuel?Have you removed the banjo from the fuel rail to see if its spitting fuel out?Have you checked for spark? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fealscott Posted December 14, 2012 Author Share Posted December 14, 2012 its getting fuel, not getting spark? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky boy Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Just got this off googleThere are two wires that go to the auto box's selector box. You need to bridge these two wires for the car to start if you have stock ecu. I didn't need to do this step as I have an aftermarket ecu. After everything is connected up you should be able to ride off into the sunset happily, and in full control of when you shift.Have a read your self http://www.tercelreference.com/articles/auto_manual_conversion/auto_manual_conversion.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
steve-gers Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Just got this off googleThere are two wires that go to the auto box's selector box. You need to bridge these two wires for the car to start if you have stock ecu. I didn't need to do this step as I have an aftermarket ecu. After everything is connected up you should be able to ride off into the sunset happily, and in full control of when you shift.Have a read your self http://www.tercelref...conversion.htmlThis is maybe true for some models but on my 1995 GT there were 2 plugs on the box. One with lots of wires and one with 3 wires, I had to bridge the 2 thickest wires in the plug with lots of wires and left all the rest and it starts and runs perfect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky boy Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Yeah i thought models would change over the years thats Toyota for you loli just showed the chap that thread as he might not of bridged any wires at all so that could be the problem why its not starting! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
steve-gers Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Yeah think the thing that stays common is that the neutral start switch is the 2 thickest wires so as long as they are bridged it should start fine. Was actually pretty easy to convert, just a few rough edges to sort out once it's been mapped at tuning developments and a full machine polish and it will be spot on lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fealscott Posted December 15, 2012 Author Share Posted December 15, 2012 (edited) the fuel pump doesnt make a noise when i turn the key, also no spark, checked all the fuses in engine bay and in car and they are fine, slackened off the nut on the fuel rail and turned the key and fuel comes out :sany help appreciated Edited December 15, 2012 by Fealscott Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socks Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Poor a bit of fuel into the throttle body... If it runs its a fuel issue...If it doesnt, its a spark issue... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aaddzz123 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Or take a plug out, put the HT back on it and turn it over and see if its sparking. Are you 100% sure that everything is plugged in? Check the coilpack and everything going to and from it, check the fuel rail and everything going to and from it.... If its getting fuel and spark it should start unless there is a big fuel leak, air leak etc in which case it would at least splutter or cough into life a bit. Do you have any kind of alarms fitted? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aaddzz123 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Make sure everything is earthed too.... I've had a few times when something hasn't worked and its because I've missed an earth or something equally as simple lol... Chances of having missed something is slim though as by the sound of it the most likely problem is in the plug and you need to butch it one way or another . No idea on that part though, never done it . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fealscott Posted December 15, 2012 Author Share Posted December 15, 2012 i am 100% sure its not sparking, there was fuel at the rail when i loosened the nut on the fuel rail and turned the key it leaked out, the spark plugs were dry when i took them out though, i think its an ecu problem i think the ecu doesnt know the engines turning over so isnt sparking or fueling, also the fuel pump doesnt make a noise when i turn the ignition key on but i do get the engine managment light on, the car also turns over alot slower than it did before, even when i have jump leads on it, everything works headlights etc also no fuses are blown,its a nightmare haha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
steve-gers Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Have you bridged the 2 thickest wires in the plug? Maybe check your amplifier where the king lead plugs in to make sure that wasn't damaged when you took the engine out. Mine fired up perfect 1st turn of the key when I started again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fealscott Posted December 15, 2012 Author Share Posted December 15, 2012 Have you bridged the 2 thickest wires in the plug? Maybe check your amplifier where the king lead plugs in to make sure that wasn't damaged when you took the engine out. Mine fired up perfect 1st turn of the key when I started again.yeah I've bridged them, il have to have a good look over everything Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yaristurbo Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Not a problem with the earths to coil and so on... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aaddzz123 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 I've just thought... Have you changed the ECU? Because the auto and manual have different ECUs.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fealscott Posted December 15, 2012 Author Share Posted December 15, 2012 (edited) supposedly you dont need to change the ecu mate, it works with the manual, you just have to bridge a connector or solder it at the ecu end for it to start, i have done this but getting other problems aswell Edited December 15, 2012 by Fealscott Quote Link to post Share on other sites
steve-gers Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 What's the other problems mate? You don't need a manual ECU, auto one works fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fealscott Posted December 16, 2012 Author Share Posted December 16, 2012 What's the other problems mate? You don't need a manual ECU, auto one works fine.just what i said above, not getting fuel or spark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
morgey Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Id almost say its missing an earth, my car did this after i did my head gasket, turned out it was a bunch of earths on the back of the intake manifold we had moved to the wrong place. Put them where they belonged and it started nearly instantly! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fealscott Posted December 18, 2012 Author Share Posted December 18, 2012 bump any suggestions ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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