Lines Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Hey guys,Just wondering if anyone is running any standalone Ecus such as omex, vipec, autronic or similar as had an apexi but want something better, just wondering if anyone has got more info?Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azz Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 There are a fair few to choose from that suit our cars.Two main ones I would say is DTA or Apexi Power fc, personally I'm going for a DTA s60 pro as its a superb unit for the price.I'm sure someone is running the s80 on here aswell Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pick1 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 What about the wolf ecu systems Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AdamB Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Choose your tuner, they will choose the ecu. No point you choosing an ecu and find no one is familier with it and you end up with a shit map. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azz Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 What about the wolf ecu systemsTuning developments supply and map them, they are a pritty penny and I've yet to hear anything about them or results.Ive done around 6 months research into ecu's and there are so many to choose from, the Honda boys use a fair amount of different ones but the top lads like zisco ect use the DTA hence why that's my choice which are also less then £1000 new Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AdamB Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 (edited) Every ecu is slightly different. Its all down to the software and what the mapper likes to use. DTA, Omex are okay but not the best. But are the cheapest. Best ecu's on the market at the moment are Life Racing and Pectel, but expect to pay £2000 just for the ecu alone. Edited January 12, 2013 by AdamB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pick1 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 My opinion is though it depends what your tuner is comfortable with mapping as u could spend 4k on an ecu and still get crap results if your tuner doesn't know how to use it properly @ azz think there is a few ep's being mapped on the wolfs now and dta's for the money u can get em for seem to be a very good bit of kit dude Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azz Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 My opinion is though it depends what your tuner is comfortable with mapping as u could spend 4k on an ecu and still get crap results if your tuner doesn't know how to use it properly@ azz think there is a few ep's being mapped on the wolfs now and dta's for the money u can get em for seem to be a very good bit of kit dudeTotally agree there dude, who ever is tuning the car needs to have a say in what ecu to go for.I've choosen DTA because its proven and the price mainly.Really don't want to be spending thousands on an ecu that a £800 one does just the job Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pick1 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 ^^^^^^ couldn't agree more mate why spend thousands when u can spend hundreds and get the same out come Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie_VF22 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 What about the wolf ecu systems im going to be runing one with my new build Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mattyD Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 im going to be runing one with my new buildX2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie_VF22 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 X2 Good man you going for the V4X version mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mattyD Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I am indeed mate I think the v550 would be a bit of an overkill maybe.............the V4X will do all I need Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryan-11 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Im running a dta s40 pro, imo theres no point going for a big fancy ecu if u aint gona use all the features, 99% of people on here would prob just get a map put on and maybe launch control. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
killamats Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 We run the DTA S60 Pro. its brilliant imo, very user friendly software and does not require DTA branded sensors that cost £££ like the Microtech and other similar ones. Infact we use AEM sensors all the way, which are a very good brand and available from anywhere even if we need them quickly they're always in stock somewhere. I recommend it to anyone as its not overly expensive while DTA have very good after sales too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lines Posted January 13, 2013 Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) Im running a dta s40 pro, imo theres no point going for a big fancy ecu if u aint gona use all the features, 99% of people on here would prob just get a map put on and maybe launch control. All good info guys, who do you use for mapping Ryan?Also who wired it in? Did you buy it direct from dta?Thanks d Edited January 13, 2013 by Lines Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AdamB Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 ^^^^^^ couldn't agree more mate why spend thousands when u can spend hundreds and get the same out come Couldn't be further from the truth tbh. If that was the case everyone on every car would be running DTA's because their cheap. Comparing the likes of DTA to KMS/Haltech/Link/Life racing etc is like chalk and cheese. They have completely different sensor control and calibration setups, different processing power, different scaling etc etc. Im running a dta s40 pro, imo theres no point going for a big fancy ecu if u aint gona use all the features, 99% of people on here would prob just get a map put on and maybe launch control. Agree with this, only reason to choose one ecu over another is if your going to use the features and other options it has to offer. If you plan on looking after an expensive engine, why skimp on the most important part by fitting an ecu that can be picked up for sub £600? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryan-11 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 All good info guys, who do you use for mapping Ryan?Also who wired it in? Did you buy it direct from dta?Thanks dI use Russ Paton @ Performance hg/hq Garage in Dalgety Bay (Scotland) as for wiring i bought the ecu from a member on here, it came with a loom, i just had to solder a few wires in and fit all the sensor, done away with the distributor, now running a crank sensor from an escort cosworth and coil packs from a Hyundai Coupe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bean Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 i run a dta s80, crank senor, coil pack ect. dizzy completely gone. great bit of kit and it was a good price. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azz Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 i run a dta s80, crank senor, coil pack ect. dizzy completely gone. great bit of kit and it was a good price.I New someone on here was using the 80 series ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pick1 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 @ Adamb I agree with what it says bit most of us wouldn't need nor run all of these features that come with the top spec ecu's so it become overkill and pointless to have so a cheaper option would be more beneficial to most of us out there that's what I was getting at and the next bit would be I use the same tuner for all my work as there reliable and do a good job with what I want from my ep so if I went an took a 5k management system to them that they had never used before or a dta that they used regularly what would give me the better outcome IMO it all comes down to bang for buck and the tuner experience with the equipment u choose the system is only as good as the tuner mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
morgey Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 A mate of mine uses a megasquirt v2.2 or 3 not sure but for the price its a pretty amazing bit of kit, got nearly every feature you could possibly want or need (some features cost extra) is customisable to different types of sensors and ignition types, has an app for andriod for monitoring different readings that you dont have gauges for or data logging wirelessly And when he got it it was less than £400 and the interface was easy enough for a couple of different tuners to look at and work with it in minutes. The software comes with it and theres a forum dedicated to it as it is essentially a self build ecu if you want to save extra £££But some companies will just refuse to even try it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AdamB Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) @ Adamb I agree with what it says bit most of us wouldn't need nor run all of these features that come with the top spec ecu's so it become overkill and pointless to have so a cheaper option would be more beneficial to most of us out there that's what I was getting at and the next bit would be I use the same tuner for all my work as there reliable and do a good job with what I want from my ep so if I went an took a 5k management system to them that they had never used before or a dta that they used regularly what would give me the better outcome IMO it all comes down to bang for buck and the tuner experience with the equipment u choose the system is only as good as the tuner mateI agree, and not many people want to spend more on a black box so to speak, they know nothing about or how it works which costs more than they paid for the car! It does all come down to the tuner at the end of the day, DTA offers some good options for the price, but is far from the best ecu. Most standalones don't even offer knock control unless a seperate unit is brought. Some say that knock control is needed if the map is good enough, but a 10 degree change in temp could be all it takes for the engine to start knocking its tits off.I've been into standalone ecu's for the last 4 or 5 years and theres a lot more behind the scenes than just creating a map and getting X power and Y torque. Edited January 13, 2013 by AdamB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pick1 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I agree mate which is why when I try to read up on em I get confused if u like t which one would be best for me or for my particular needs I mean at the mo I'm running emanage blue and that does the job for what I need at the mo but if I carried on and went for a better spec then I would be open to the such of a standalone but tbh I would probably speak with the tuner at the time and see what there input would be so I don't spend money on something that I would never use to its potential Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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