Tuning Developments Bad Experience!!!!!!

[TimD]

Key phrase here .. "could be".

Until you remove the gearbox you will never know for sure. Shit happens my man, TD have offered to look at it for you, if "you" don't trust their judgement then surely your warranty is useless anyway?

Sprouting nonsense on the internet is not going to solve your problem, pick up the phone, pay them a visit and get the car sorted.

[Phil]

It's easy to make comments like this when you haven't paid a penny, come back when you've paid £3500

Correct. though as this thread has proved its just as easy to spout negative crap when you havent lost a penny either.

So td are sorting it?

Sounds like you aren't happy with the potential solution offered.

Apparently they needed a week to cover up their errors?!>? when in fact they needed it a week as you werent about bar mondays.

no one is saying its ideal, it is a problem thats on the agenda after all.

Number one when u paid all that money I have u expect to go pik up the car running fine that noise has been there since day one

If that happens everyone has done well i agree, but as someone experienced in how these things work, then i would say that no you should not expect anything to go smoothly, nomatter what you've paid. unless your going to pay someone to take on the ownership experience of driving the car for a few weeks to troubleshoot any MINOR issues such as this and then fix them as they arise.

So td are sorting it?

Number 2 I goes am willing to take it to someone else but I was told if I do so my warrenty is void Just by another specialist taking the box off

This has not been commented on my mike or nick i don't think in this thread, maybe i missed it, so ill take your word for it.

but imagine that another company takes the box off and the clutch is broke, whats you play? whinge to TD?

your giving them every reason to have no inclination towards helping you.

Number 3 they never once said yh it could have been a duff release bearing all they keep saying

Is its the input shaft bearing So it dont seem like its on them to do the work under warrenty as I could understand if I done some miles on it and I was ragging it and it went faulty, as soon as I piked it up from them the noise was there and at that point I've not even done 0 miles

On the engine myself

4 I've taken the car to 2 starlet specialist including

Tim @ tb developments who highly regarded and they both said could be a faulty clutch or

Release bearing

Regarding 3 and 4, this is really what i was getting at with my first post, nothing mentioned sounds remotely serious.

TD have done a quick diagnosis and so have two other parties, two agree one doesnt.

neither know for certain.

neither are suggesting that a problem doesnt exist, nor are either suggesting that anything is terribly wrong.

if it was me i would apologise for the childish whinging, put on your big boy shoes and get yourself to TD.

Let them sort it nomatter the issue, if the clutch has fallen to a million pieces its not their fault if the shaft bearing or release bearing has collasped so be it.

speak to them, not another mechanic, not us and sort it.

all this stuff about TD wont admit this or wont agree with that,

is nonsense,

your pitting two starlet specialist best GUESSES against each-other which neither party would want to see.

Phil

[StuDoc 72]

An input shaft bearing noise and release bearing noise happen at completely different times. Its easy to diagnose either or.

[Jhandy]

Way to usually tell if it's the release bearing or input shaft

Release bearing as soon as the free play has been taken up on pedal the noise should be gone

Input shaft the noise will be there practically all the way until the clutch pedal is fully depressed as this is when the gearbox is disengaged

Also input shaft sounds like a diesel flywheel trying to jump out the engine bay

Hope this helps

[b16a2]

I see why his pissed off because everyone else his spoken to have said its the release bearing which would have been td's fault but they are saying its the input shaft which they would charge him a lot to sort out. Sounds to me like he don't trust them with the car because his had a specialist look at it and gave the same answer as everyone else

[Jhandy]

Input shaft bearings are not that bad to change if you know what your doing. But he should try what I said

[b16a2]

How much would a garage normally charge?

[redline]

Td was asking 450 to replace the input shaft bearing

[redline]

Tim checked it with a mechanical stethoscope and he goes the noise is coming from we're the clutch sits

[Jhandy]

But sound travels bud. How loud is the noise.

[redline]

Noise is kinda loud..... When u put the clutch down it goes away and other times when u lift the up slowly it quites down

[Jhandy]

Usually release bearing make a like sqeaking noise as well as a grouching noise. Where as a input bearing is really loud and makes a rattle noise but won't go until the clutch is fully depressed

[redline]

Usually release bearing make a like sqeaking noise as well as a grouching noise. Where as a input bearing is really loud and makes a rattle noise but won't go until the clutch is fully depressed

I'll have a look into it tomorrow so if u put the clutch down like half way and the noise goes away that would indicate its the realease bearing

And for it to be the input shaft bearing the clutch would need to be all the way down?

What about the issue with the gears sticking?

[AdamB]

The point is, the car went in with a fully working gearbox, it comes out making a rattle/noise.

Either the wrong gearbox was put in and a duff one at that Or the clutch assembly is faulty.

[Jhandy]

Just take up the free play on the pedal for the release bearing. And input shaft would be all the way. For sticking gears it could be the springs in the clutch. Of they snap you would also have trouble getting it into gear. Mainly when it's got warm

[redline]

The point is, the car went in with a fully working gearbox, it comes out making a rattle/noise.

Either the wrong gearbox was put in and a duff one at that Or the clutch assembly is faulty.

This is what am saying people don't realise it went in fully working came back out making a noise

[daniel_g]

All i'm saying is, poor quality control. The car should have been extensively road tested after such work to find / rectify any problems such as this. It could have avoided this whole situation.

Im not sure how TD operate because i've never dealt with them, but trying to charge you a further fee for a fault that seemed to have developed whilst the car was in their hands is fucking laughable.

All my opinion of course

[Jhandy]

If it does turn out to be release bearing. And td supplied the clutch. Then it should be done under warranty with no charge. And also if they do take the gearbox out. And say its the input shaft you are withen your right to ask for the parts back that they replaced.

[redline]

Just take up the free play on the pedal for the release bearing. And input shaft would be all the way. For sticking gears it could be the springs in the clutch. Of they snap you would also have trouble getting it into gear. Mainly when it's got warm

Now that's getting me worried as when it gets warm it's somtyms gets hard to put in gear and it sticks more

[Jhandy]

Now that's getting me worried as when it gets warm it's somtyms gets hard to put in gear and it sticks more

sounds like the clutch is broke then bud.

Now that's getting me worried as when it gets warm it's somtyms gets hard to put in gear and it sticks more

sounds like the clutch is broke then bud.

Now that's getting me worried as when it gets warm it's somtyms gets hard to put in gear and it sticks more

sounds like the clutch is broke then bud.

[redline]

If it does turn out to be release bearing. And td supplied the clutch. Then it should be done under warranty with no charge. And also if they do take the gearbox out. And say its the input shaft you are withen your right to ask for the parts back that they replaced.

but they could give me any old parts am sure they got loads lying about I wanna see the work being done infront of my own eyes now sadly And if am wrong and it is the gear box at fault I'll appolagise and pay for the labour to remove and refit box but that's only if I see the work being done myself

And I'll come bak and sort everything for them

And bring there rep bak am not here to slate anybody just want my car sorted fair and square with out being mugged off

Edited July 10, 2013 by redline

[Jhandy]

I'm pretty sure it will be the clutch though bud

[redline]

I'm pretty sure it will be the clutch though bud

That's the thing Tim told me same thing with the gears sticking could be a fuked clutch so were do I stand if a brand new clutch fuked up before the engine was even run in/mapped

[Jhandy]

It should still be under warranty bud

[redline]

It should still be under warranty bud

But after all this mess dont think they would sort me out