RichWillmore Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Hi Guys, Some of you may know the car some may not. I have a forged TD05 Glanza,Its currently putting down just shy of 300bhp. Im thinking of going for more power & debating a new set-up. What do people recommend and what sort of prices and power etc will i see ... Post away people.It'd be much appreciated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socks Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Have u got a full current spec and power output of your car? Post this up and it will allow us to try and pinpoint what could be improved! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RichWillmore Posted October 4, 2013 Author Share Posted October 4, 2013 I havent had it for more than a couple of months, my friend built most of it and im just carry on as the new owner. It was forged at either TD/Race-Tech cannot remember, Race-tech Mani, TD05-16, No Head work (Looking into cams etc but finding them hard to find) External wastegaste (Tial) Screamer etc ... Not sure on exhaust system, think its a blitz...Hks intake. Its 285.6bhp (Mapped at Tuning Devlopements) Its on E-Manage Ultimate ... Not sure on injector size, and standard inlet etc. Im looking for the cheapest and best way to get more power out of it... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimmymac101 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Along with a new turbo set up ( which I wouldn't what is best lol ) have you thought about a standalone ecu to tweak some more power ? Mega momey though after reading other people threads James Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RichWillmore Posted October 4, 2013 Author Share Posted October 4, 2013 Yeah, i have thought about it ... Ideally i want to go down the more affordable route atm.Since i have owned the car a month or so ive had to replace... Brakes, Manifold, screamer, New seats, Full service etc, Rocker Cover etc .... adds up quick.Dont mind spending money aslong as its justifyable ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socks Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Right... well first off it may be worth calling TD or a previous owner, asking what it was max'd on...During the remapping session they may have maxed something... Be it injectors possibly? A TD05 is good for 320-330bhp so the turbo has plenty more to go yet... No Need for changing cams until 360-370bhp...No Need for changing inlet manifold until 350bhp... A full 3inch exhaust system front to back, could help free off some power top end and help with spool too! But before you start doing any of that, you need to find out what the car is currently maxed out at... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RichWillmore Posted October 4, 2013 Author Share Posted October 4, 2013 Im good mates with Sachin the guy i brought the car off. He seems to remember his injectors being on full cycle or very near too ... What good 3 inch system would you sugguest/good but cost effective?Its getting to 350 thats the issue, i know 350 + is headwork etc time and thats fine ... but its bridging the 60 ish hp i need!! Its Boosting at 1.6 bar if that makes a different. But injectors i think your correct ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AdamB Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 (edited) If your boosting to 1.6 bar and only making 285bhp I think there's a problem somewhere, that turbo at that boost its probably around its maximum efficiency. Td04's make that sorta power at less boost. As Sock's said though, a 3inch full system will work well.What injectors is it running at the moment? Edited October 4, 2013 by AdamB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socks Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 1.6bar is a lot of boost pressure.... Sounds like you have an issue/serious restrictions? If injectors are being maxed. A set of bigger injectors and going back to a mapper to see what they can do would be a wise move! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RichWillmore Posted October 4, 2013 Author Share Posted October 4, 2013 Yeah definatley backing up my own opinion. This is good to hear from somebody different as i have had mixed views ... What injectors other than SARD are direct fit and good value ? Thankyou by the way Socks, quick response ... Anyone else feel free to comment Quote Link to post Share on other sites
russ78 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 ^^ as above mate 1.6 bar on a TD05 16G should see you around 330/350 BHP at that boost if your injectors are maxed out id invest your money into some 550 + injectors Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RichWillmore Posted October 4, 2013 Author Share Posted October 4, 2013 Yeah, really appreciate the feedback people Any Injector suggestions, links? prices? sizes etc Top Stuff...Awesome Forum Quote Link to post Share on other sites
russ78 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 550cc injectors are good for about 1.5bar of boost on a td05 you might do well to go for RX7 720cc if you looking to run 1.6+ bar of boost heres a link to give u an idea there plug and play same as sards http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mazda-RX-7-86-88-set-of-4-Direct-Fit-720cc-fuel-Injectors-Low-Impedance-/180927856477?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a2023ff5d Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AdamB Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 The injectors being maxed isn't the issue of low down on power though, providing the AFR is correct.Selecting injectors depends on what's being used now, although I would expect you to need some 550cc +, and then saying that you would be better off with a standalone ecu depending on how big you go. I think there is some restrictions somewhere in the line. I would find out what size exhaust system it is running currently. What size the intercooler core is, what the diameter of the intercooler pipes are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RichWillmore Posted October 4, 2013 Author Share Posted October 4, 2013 I think the exhaust is 2.5 and the intercooler pipes are 2 ? That may be a problem ? 550 + has gotter realy happen hasnt it ? take long to swap over ? Any tips ? Intercooler core will be fine, its a good 5 inches deep i think !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
russ78 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 (edited) I think the exhaust is 2.5 and the intercooler pipes are 2 ? That may be a problem ? 550 + has gotter realy happen hasnt it ? take long to swap over ? Any tips ? Intercooler core will be fine, its a good 5 inches deep i think !! straight swap bud two bolts to undo the fuel rail and injectors are pushed into bottom of the rail flush to the rubber seal then put bolts back tighten and job done but... you should be running a Wideband so put your money into injectors and a wideband and see where you go from there Edited October 4, 2013 by russ78 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RichWillmore Posted October 4, 2013 Author Share Posted October 4, 2013 Okay, and is there a particular place/brand i have to run Russ? Thankyou by the way Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socks Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Is it 100% a td05.... Look at the stamp on the turbo make sure it defo says td05... 1.6bar is a lot of boost for 280bhp... It must be running very rich if there isn't an issue! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RichWillmore Posted October 4, 2013 Author Share Posted October 4, 2013 Its 110% a TD05. I even have a spare exactly the same ... And that was my thoughts, wideband is all set up etc ... seems fine.Im just not sure whats stopping it going higher, map is quite old tbf ... Maybe Injectors and new map, who do you recommend to as a top mapper? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
russ78 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 (edited) so u have a wideband ? Edited October 4, 2013 by russ78 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socks Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 What wideband have u got and what does it read on boost? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RichWillmore Posted October 4, 2013 Author Share Posted October 4, 2013 AEM, and i cant remember off the top of my head what it says. But yeah got it Russ ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
russ78 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 get up some readings then buddy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RichWillmore Posted October 4, 2013 Author Share Posted October 4, 2013 Yeah will do ... Its not on the road atm though :/ Doing some weight removal work and interior stuff ... Hmmm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jayc-glanza17 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 i maxed my td05 out at 340 with a aggressive map..but on a road map at 1.5 bar mine is 315, but I have a standalone ecu, with inlet, 3 inch exhaust, and all race spec intercooler and rad, just stock head..so id say your a lil shy on power, but not that much to worry.. id suggest, a arashi td05-18g or andy forrest td05-18g, both will achieve 350bhp to 380bhp on starlets.. also blouch is a great company as do a billet td05 which is mega money but pukka.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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