Jacobep91 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Hi guys a few months back I brought an engine from socks he had supposably brought the car from Scotland and drove it back Let me first say that when I went to him it was a pleasure to deal with him and there was no problems what so ever I put the engine in and being new to starlets I had a mechanic help and we put the engine in and it ran however it ran lumpy but we put this down to over fueling as it was every so loud with a slight missfire Then I took it for mapping a good distance from me and found the teeth on the engine was 5 teeth out I'm surprised it even started! And then we it ran much quieter we found the engine actually had a knock So I had the bottom end shells replaced luckily the crank hadn't been scored or anything else (however still was fairly costly to repair and in total a couple hundred pound) Throughout this I have been speaking with Matt however he's slowly stopped replying and he said he would sort it out but it's now been we'll over a month and I don't know what to do so id just like people to thoroughly check their engines! I didn't think Id have this much trouble and I know it's not very expensive but money doesn't grow on trees and I have been as honest as possible and I stress he was a lovely bloke to deal with but his communication since the incident has been poor and I need this dealt with Thanks guys and I'm not trying to cause shit but I think it needs to be mentioned Link to post Share on other sites
Dan507 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 It's no secret now, hes a nice enough bloke but useless when it comes to selling, twice i've bought from him, and both times hes mess'd me about, never again Link to post Share on other sites
Jacobep91 Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 It's no secret now, hes a nice enough bloke but useless when it comes to selling, twice i've bought from him, and both times hes mess'd me about, never againLike I say lovely bloke to deal with but hasn't sorted this out for me Link to post Share on other sites
matty gt Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 like wise lads and from the owner of the site 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Jacobep91 Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 like wise lads and from the owner of the site 2 Exactly mate that's why I thought I wouldn't have any problems Link to post Share on other sites
Socks Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 It's no secret now, hes a nice enough bloke but useless when it comes to selling, twice i've bought from him, and both times hes mess'd me about, never again You bought a CT9... It had a cracked wastegate. Like every other CT9 in the world... You gave me it back at Japfest and I refunded you and sold it to someone else. Who is boosting and enjoying it just fine with no problems what so ever... Like I say lovely bloke to deal with but hasn't sorted this out for me I have a picture of the car in Scotland. kidV drove the car back from the top of Scotland... There is no way a engine would make it 350miles+ with a knocking bottom end... To then get a message off you want me to cover funds for a new Cambelt, full service and all this other stuff it needs for peace of mind I feel is a little unfair... Bottom ends either knock or they don't. They don't just knock lightly as an early warning to change the bottom end shells... They run smoothly or they spin a shell and knock... There is no in-between.... I've sold 100000s of things on here. However it seems you cant please everyone... Link to post Share on other sites
Jacobep91 Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 You bought a CT9... It had a cracked wastegate. Like every other CT9 in the world...You gave me it back at Japfest and I refunded you and sold it to someone else. Who is boosting and enjoying it just fine with no problems what so ever... I have a picture of the car in Scotland. kidV drove the car back from the top of Scotland...There is no way a engine would make it 350miles+ with a knocking bottom end...To then get a message off you want me to cover funds for a new Cambelt, full service and all this other stuff it needs for peace of mind I feel is a little unfair...Bottom ends either knock or they don't. They don't just knock lightly as an early warning to change the bottom end shells... They run smoothly or they spin a shell and knock... There is no in-between....I've sold 100000s of things on here. However it seems you cant please everyone... Link to post Share on other sites
Jacobep91 Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 I haven't actually said I want you to pay for the cambelt change but seeing you or the previous owner has changed the cam belt leaving it 5 teeth out isn't my fault And we've discussed the refund you wanted to refund me 40 even tho that doesn't cover the cost of the big end shells And the big end she'll had spun however there was no other damage. Also you haven't replied to any of my recent message and that's the thing that's annoyed me the most because you said you would get back to me last weekend that never happened Link to post Share on other sites
Socks Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I haven't actually said I want you to pay for the cambelt change but seeing you or the previous owner has changed the cam belt leaving it 5 teeth out isn't my fault And we've discussed the refund you wanted to refund me 40 even tho that doesn't cover the cost of the big end shells And the big end she'll had spun however there was no other damage. Also you haven't replied to any of my recent message and that's the thing that's annoyed me the most cos you said you would get back to me last weekend that never happened You wanted me to pay for all sorts when you first got in touch 2 months after coming to get the engine... I said the most I would consider is refunding you is for the shells... However.... I still don't get the fact that the shells were knocking... It wouldn't have done 350 miles! No Way... It'd have spat a rod out the crankcase... Didn't smoke. Didn't Misfire. Sold 4-5 4E-FTE's now I know what there prone for and I know the signs... This engine displayed no such signs... Link to post Share on other sites
ash p Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I feel sorry for you jacobep91 unfortunately this serms to be happening more and more these days hopefully you get it sorted buddy Link to post Share on other sites
Jacobep91 Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 You wanted me to pay for all sorts when you first got in touch 2 months after coming to get the engine...I said the most I would consider is refunding you is for the shells...However.... I still don't get the fact that the shells were knocking...It wouldn't have done 350 miles! No Way... It'd have spat a rod out the crankcase...Didn't smoke. Didn't Misfire. Sold 4-5 4E-FTE's now I know what there prone for and I know the signs... This engine displayed no such signs... Link to post Share on other sites
Jacobep91 Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 No mate you asked what I'd had to pay for and I explained So are you trying to say that I'm making it up because I wouldn't make some shit up to cause me and my dad shit as he's the one having to trailer my car around so I'm not gonna make up that the engines knocking am I mate Also I'd like to know why you didn't reply to my messages until this thanks Link to post Share on other sites
Socks Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 If you want to word things like that... I could argue your trying to make me look the cunt saying I've knowingly sold you an engine with a knocking bottom end? You've messaged me a lot mate. sometimes, 5 times a day. What are you expecting me to do for you? Can I see the failure please...? Any pictures of the damage to the crank, the shells. etc Thanks Link to post Share on other sites
Jacobep91 Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 If you want to word things like that... I could argue your trying to make me look the cunt saying I've knowingly sold you an engine with a knocking bottom end?You've messaged me a lot mate. sometimes, 5 times a day. What are you expecting me to do for you?Can I see the failure please...? Any pictures of the damage to the crank, the shells. etc Thanks Link to post Share on other sites
Jacobep91 Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 No mate. Your trying to make it sound like I'm making things up. Yes I message you a lot because you don't get back to me and when you do you say I'll sort it then and you never do. I'm expecting that as a seller you'll take some responsibility as the car hasnt been on the road my end so how can I have done it and yes I can get you a photo of the shells tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites
Socks Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Surely you can appreciate that an engine doesn't just slightly knock the bottom end shells. As an early warning sign to say they need changing... They run smoothly. Or spin and completely fail and knock like mad... Please send me some pics of the shells, Id like to see them... SO what your wanting from me is the cost of some bottom end shells? Link to post Share on other sites
Jacobep91 Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 Surely you can appreciate that an engine doesn't just slightly knock the bottom end shells. As an early warning sign to say they need changing...They run smoothly. Or spin and completely fail and knock like mad...Please send me some pics of the shells, Id like to see them...SO what your wanting from me is the cost of some bottom end shells?We'll trust me mate it was a slight knock but bad enough to need fixing I will send photos tomorrow We'll what are you willing to refund? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites
Socks Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Please post up the shell pics tormoz Jacob... Id like to see the shells first... Link to post Share on other sites
Jacobep91 Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 Yeah that's not a problem Link to post Share on other sites
Jacobep91 Posted July 18, 2014 Author Share Posted July 18, 2014 Here you go mate you can see in picture one mainly on the right shell that there is slight scoring/wear as the copper is showing Picture 2 shows 2 shells that aren't damaged Picture 3 shows both shells are fucked Thanks Link to post Share on other sites
Devs313 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 like wise lads and from the owner of the site 2 Couldn't have said it any better. This is appalling. Hope you get something sorted buddy. Link to post Share on other sites
Jacobep91 Posted July 18, 2014 Author Share Posted July 18, 2014 Couldn't have said it any better. This is appalling. Hope you get something sorted buddy.Cheers thanks lads Link to post Share on other sites
garrygt Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 hope u get this sorted mate....and also it is possible for the bottom end to knock very slightly to begin with. it doesnt just knock like mad straight away in some cases Link to post Share on other sites
Jacobep91 Posted July 18, 2014 Author Share Posted July 18, 2014 hope u get this sorted mate....and also it is possible for the bottom end to knock very slightly to begin with. it doesnt just knock like mad straight away in some cases Link to post Share on other sites
Jacobep91 Posted July 18, 2014 Author Share Posted July 18, 2014 Thankyou and this is exactly what happened and I was lucky that it was caught early and yeah it's not expensive but when with parts and time taken to fix it, it all adds up Link to post Share on other sites
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