jordan walker Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Right basically I had it running a couple of months ago and it's been stood since I haven't touched it at all...Chrged the battery and went to go for gold and it's turning over fine it's getting. Spark but there is no fuel pressure at all and I can't hear the pump primingI have done the diagnostic check as I initialy thought it was the pump but on the diagnostic check everything is fine fuel pump turns over spot on and builds up pressure but as soon as I go to start it I get sweet fuck all again.I have a toad sterling one alarm on the car but it is locking and unlocking fine?Has anyone experienced the same problem before or does anyone know how to reset this alarm to see if it is the immobiliser I can't seem to find anything on the web Cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_g Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Checked EFI fuse ? Are you getting fuel up to the rail ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jordan walker Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 I bridged b+ and Ft in the diagnostic port and the fuel pump came on and the gauge went up on my afpr so yeah the fuse is working it's just when I turn the key nothing is happening with regards to the fueling Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_g Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Id say the Toad is probably cut fuel and wont let it start. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jordan walker Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 Any ideas on how to sort it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toyotag2014 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 try disconnect battery leave it for 10 mins wire back up and try start if that dont work try setting the alarm of then unlock car then that should stop the alarm going of and open then it should be fine thats what ive done befor with this allarm on my old escort Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jordan walker Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 Tried that mate still didn't work Im thinking it has nothing to do with the imiboliser now I'm going to try and follow the wiring from the fuel pump back and make sure that I'm getting power to it when I turn the keyI'm also going to replace the efi fuse see if that makes a difference in completely lost tbh I don't have a clue what it could be now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toyotag2014 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 its probs fuel pump its self then dude Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jordan walker Posted January 30, 2015 Author Share Posted January 30, 2015 Right I have removed the alarm completely today and I've still got the exact same problem...No fuelNo sparkNo eml on No oil pressure light onTurns over but wont startSo obviously the alarm wasn't the issue as that was removed the efi relay has been replaced so it wasn't that and like I said I done the diagnostic test on the pump and it runs fine so obviously the pump is ok Any ideas as to what it could be? Someone must know Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toyotag2014 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 start checking sensors mate crank sensor ect Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akyakapotter Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I would start checking earths if I was you maybe you have left one off some where Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jordan walker Posted January 30, 2015 Author Share Posted January 30, 2015 Had a multi meter on the earths today and they all seem to be strong I have...Battery to earth kitEarth kit to blockEarth kit to bodyEarth kit to boxEarth kit to body againBody to blockSo I don't think it will be the earths unless I'm missing one somewhere? I tested the little one that goes from the fuel pump wiring to the uprights in the dash aswell and that seemed fine Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jordan walker Posted January 30, 2015 Author Share Posted January 30, 2015 I was under the impression that they didn't have a crank sensor? And I can't think of any sensors that would stop the car getting fuel and a spark? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akyakapotter Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 What about the one that would have gone to the stock icv I know you don't have that there anymore but I left that earth off one day and mine wouldn't start till I put it back on Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jordan walker Posted January 30, 2015 Author Share Posted January 30, 2015 Hmm I'll have a look tomorrow mate not a bad shout that I'm gunna try a different Ecu aswell cheers pal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jordan walker Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 That Earth is on and I've tried a different Ecu still no fuel pressure still no spark and still no eml :/ I'm running out of ideas I can't think of a part on the car that would cause these issues? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gainzy Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 If there is no fuel pressure it must be the fuel pump surely or a knackered king lead... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jordan walker Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 Fuel pump works when I do the diagnostic test though mate and if the king lead was knackered then it still wouldn't explain why the fueling isn't working Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gainzy Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 What ecu are you running now? Fpr? I don't see how it can just stop working, what have you replaced since then? Fuel filter blockage..no leaks from the lines.If you loosen the fuel line from the rail push it right over the lip, try start it, if you don't get a small fuel leak your problem is from the back of the car...not very professional but it will narrow the route Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jordan walker Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 I'm running a sard Ecu now but I tried a standard Ecu yesterday and it did nothing and a tuning developments fpr I haven't changed anything at all since it last started? I've moved it about half a mile on a trailer but that's itThe problem isn't a blockage or anything because when I bridge b+ and Ft or what ever the fuck it is my pump runs and my fuel gauge goes up to the right pressure on my fuel pressure reg So it's obviously a wiring issue that's all it can be but what the fuck is there on a one of these cars that can knock the pump off shot the spark out take the eml off and get rid of the oil pressure light off all at the same time?I've tried replacing the Ecu ive tried replacing the efi relay and I've tried checking the earths an fuses anymore ideas what to check electrically? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gainzy Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Only thing I can think of now is the throttle stuck closed cutting it off that way tps sensor I would point everything to the fuel pump though if it is still priming up it might not be pushing the needed amount through with it been stud it's probably went stubborn hope you get sorted! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jordan walker Posted February 2, 2015 Author Share Posted February 2, 2015 It can't be the pump though mate because when I do the test it primes perfect and I get fuel pressure it's only when I turn the key it doesn't so I know the fuel pump works fine :/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ramses Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Right I have removed the alarm completely today and I've still got the exact same problem...No fuelNo sparkNo eml onNo oil pressure light onTurns over but wont startSo obviously the alarm wasn't the issue as that was removed the efi relay has been replaced so it wasn't that and like I said I done the diagnostic test on the pump and it runs fine so obviously the pump is okAny ideas as to what it could be? Someone must know check relay... or a general fuse in the engine bayIt can't be the pump though mate because when I do the test it primes perfect and I get fuel pressure it's only when I turn the key it doesn't so I know the fuel pump works fine :/do you hear the starter working ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aaddzz123 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 This sounds like a management problem to me. I would double check all plugs are connected in the fuse boxes and into the ECU, make sure the wiring around the ignition is all done correctly after removing the alarm. It could be related to the EFI fuse if you've not tried that yet. Swap it out for another and see if there is any difference. If the problem occurred after the car being sat, then putting a battery on, it can only really be down to basics such as a fuse when the battery was put on, rubber perishing or corrosion on terminals if wet etc....Try and look at it from a different point of view and go over it all again! Start with the basics. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jordan walker Posted February 2, 2015 Author Share Posted February 2, 2015 Yeah I've tried replacing relays didn't do anything I'm gunna try have another look at plugs and things like you say and check every fuse again one more time and then i think I'm going to have to send it somewhere Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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