Yep, as soon as you react, you go down to their level. I did say 'get a life' lol but thats hardly a reaction. Next time we get that kinda thread it will be closed or deleted. people with other rides are very welcome on the site, genuine ones that is lol... in fact it makes everything more interesting as we are all part of the scene. But we are primarily a Starlet Enthusiast site so please respect that, part-timers and purists alike, also prone to a little sleeping with the enemy - yes you vtakkers haha But we have everything going for us - advice - choice parts - tuning potential - satisfaction -> Plus uksc is a far cry away from other forums that have heated arguments all week. Keep sweet & strong! Peace people Joz p.s JDM rules above all