thanks guys, mucho appreciatedo!!!!!!!!!! damn car's doin my head in at the mo, the rear is makin more noises and i dunno wot the hell it is, dont think its the panhard rod anymore...stupid car, ah well nothin new there i guess lol!!! sorry si mate, i have somoe left at the mo but i have plans for it, if theres any after that i'll let u know man, i think its just 3mm stuff dude, got it at the samco stall at JAE. Phil.