and another thing, is the ep3 loves to rev, far higher then an st or rs.. and that video i know exactly where u were, and the ep3 will win everytime... why, because its lighter, better handing more agile, and ther is a series of roundabouts which i reckon the ep3 would be faster through.. then only one real longish straight.. and as said further up in thread, the power to weight and Wheel horsepower, are going to be a lot closer then you think... and an st or rs needs torque to get its fat ass moving... only one way mate, settle this wkend again, i happily watch..