Ok yeah standard vs standard Gti's and Ralley's would kill an N/A starlet, how light are they compared to a starlet then? a ralley is probably 780-90kg. But we arn't here to keep our cars standard are we... However at the moment a 2.0 Astra GSi N/A (145 bhp standard) only really pulls away in 4th. Same as my mates 1.8 sport with lgiht and balanced fly cat back etc etc... And cars that can't keep up - Fiesta Zetec-s (mk5), Vtr, 1.6 corrolla (4a-fe), 1.4 corsa sri... Spec of car atm - Corrolla Manifold, Induction Kit, Decat and a Backbox...