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hi ive got a n/a mkiv supra and i'm thinking of getting rid of it for a glanza because i'm fed up of only getting 200miles out of £40. would the performance be similar as the starlet is lighterthan the soop (dyno,ed today at 232bhp at the flywheel ) any advice would be great cheers j

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i'd say you're going good to get 200miles out of £40 on a 3.0l straight six!

my glanza does about 220miles to 30ish quid.

it doesnt help that fuel is constantly on the rise.

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performance would only be similar in a GT upto about 60...the supe, and gt are both "around" 6.8-6.9..but after 60 the supe is just going to walk it with the extra torque from the 3 litre..

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cheers peaple but i only get 200 if i drive like a saint , boot it to much and i'm looking at about 170-180. as for handling ,the roads round here are bumpy as hell its all country lanes you can't use the power or the back will go ( mate keeps up in his 1.3 clio) cheers j

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@ rubix cube - i only very rarely got 250 to the sr, and that was if i drove like a saint. in the gt im getting 180-200 at a push but im not running a o2 sensor...

and what mods do you have on your 200sx?-- "Oh and an N/A Supra has no performance, don't kid yourself" if yours is near stock should think itl have yours...:lol: lol

i think i ran silghtly slower at pod again a similar modded sz, i was just running exhaust, decat, and air filter.. ;)

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i get the same aswell in my n/a looking around 250 miles and the tank is gone, top half of the tank is brilliant get about 200 miles driving normally bottom half is gone in 50 miles dependant on how im driving, but the petrol light has never came on even when ive let it go under empty so im nto sure if it is just dodgy sensors or something but it does my head in how little i get for how little power they have got,.

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My SR is shocking...but the decat has made the fuel consumption drop through the floor somehow...

I dont want to get a decat then ;)

If I fill it right up it goes off the fuel scale and if i drive like a granny after 40miles it will be still on the full mark but then 100 miles later it will be on half a tank and then I usually get 100miles from the bottom half of the tank :lol:

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My 200 is 210hp with its Stage1 setup.

im sorry...i hate it when people say all this "stage 1", "stage 2" cr*p...what the hell is a "stage one" tune..no one knows..its all chat IMO..

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^ lol agreed its "fast and furious chat" lol. and i can drive fine thanks, like i said its because im running WITHOUT an 02 sensor.

i totally disagree,

yeh an 180bhp v is completly different to a) a standard one which we were comparing, and :lol: i still reckon will eat your 200sx. what are they? 2.0 turbo, produced factory figure of in the 7's.. c) gt/v's hit a wall at 80.. maybe stock but when your pushing nearly 200bhp its not really going to stop. and d) you abused it then got beaten at 80? doesnt really sound like an abusing to me....

just my 2p as i happen to be quite a fan of the supe..

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There is a stage 3 but I can't remember what the mods are exactly just now.

exactly. because its rubbish and means nothing...going by that then...and as changing the turbo is classed as a stage god knows what stage a drag car would be classed at...

err... ive got a stage 10 tune, drag car

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mate...a n/a supra will not do a late 7, no way...and 200sx's first couple of gears are pretty long, hence why the 0-60 aint that good...

Someone with an n/a, had an exhaust manifold, full system, and airfilter...and a full boot of subs, and that pulled a 6.3 sec -0-60 on an accelerometer thing, which is good enough evidence for me.

Im not having a debate about this anymore..

Rob

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late sevens if that?! mate im sorry but thats pish. agreed as above as me and rob are both close with mkiv oc and so is faisal as his cousin i think runs a bpu supe. were really not the ones to argue with on them..

but enough is enough now..

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Fishy, if your a fan of Supra's never buy an N/A your dreams of what the cars are will die. The N/A's are utter pish. I know a boy who got one after selling his MG ZR, he was that disappointed by it he was selling it 4 weeks later. The Turbo's are a different kettle of fish but trust me on the N/A. The play I had with the Supra began low down in 2nd and by the time I hit 80 he began to creap up. It was only by the time I was touching 100 Leptons he was passing at a slow pace.

Starlets die at 100mph, even with 180 and 175ft/lbhp mine took an age to hit the redline in 5th (not Jap 112 limiter by the way)

I love the way you think that a 1.8 Turbo is no match for a 3lt N/A.

the Supra will do 0-60 in the late 7's IF THAT

my 200 will do it low 7's possibly mid 6's. I don't care for 1/4 miles and "racing" anymore.

the N/A Supra's are only a baw hair above 200hp with Torque to match.

My 200sx is the same, except weighing around about 300-400kg less.

Rob, as I said its different scene's. The starlets have no large companies who specialise enough to breakdown a set list of mods which produce a set area of power. Doing this stops all the retarded post like "How much power will I have if I fit an Exhaust and Filter" and "How much power will turning up my boost give me"

I suppose it also comes down to the outlook of club members. If you take a look at the SXOC most members are 25+ and can't be arsed to mess about buying individual parts and management. You can go to Horsham/APEX and buy all the stuff you need for around £500 for Stage 1. That way you don't have to wonder what the car will be it will be 200-220hp depending on the health of your engine.

Look at here and TGTT, most members are 17-25 and are still believing the sun shines out of anything "JDM y0" and the more "JDM y0" bits you have the faster your car is. Breakling the level of tune into Stage's makes it easier to work with. On here it means jack shit but I wouldn't expect you to understand.

You honestly thing thinks like that are accurate. :lol: Thats like me saying "I counted to 10 in the time it takes my car to get to 155, that must mean I can do 155 in 10seconds!" ;)

They are NOT fast. 0-60 in around 6.9 Seconds (Low 7's for the Auto's) and a top speed of around 150mph

Dude an apexi rsm does not lie!

i cant belive yours does 155, and im not sure an na will either lol. and why would u by an auto?!

and 0-155 in 10secs? stop being childish just because you are loosing a debate

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this got interesting lol, my mates gt at standard gave a n/a supra a good running before, granted the driver is a bellend who couldnt even get the back end out in the wet lol, but yeah it may have just over 200bhp but it does way about three million tons, id much prefer a 200sx they are wicked little drift cars.

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rubix dear boy the n/a you played with was probably crusing my n/a will do 135 in less than 1.1miles and if you read my first thread you will see i had if rolling roaded at 232bhp (just an tailpipe changed) i just want to change as i'm fed up with the fuel consumption and no boot space, as for 0-60 the manual will do it in 6.7sec thanks j

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As far as i know them 0-60 things are only meant to be like 0.1 or 0.2 seconds out either way.

Also my nephews dad used to have an n/a supra and it wasn't bad once it got going, but i raced it once pretty much standard and kept up with him to like 60-70 then he started to pull. There not very fast. TT's on the other hand everyone knows are great.

"the only supra worth buying is a TT". I got to agree with that from experience, or a single converted.

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correct i agree with gaz a single converted tt is what you want, the n/a's arent bad, i was going to buy one instead of the gt.

and rubix you say your speaking from experience, but 700bhp tt supra's are extremly rare as everyone goes single.

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