GP82 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 You will get further and faster in a ep Evo9 rs is the closest thing that gave me ‘that feeling’ you can get in a ep. The seating and the steering wheel position is very much like a ep as is the sensation of acceleration and speed too. However ‘that feeling’ in the ep is still higher. You cannot beat the adrenaline rush and the shivers that it can give after a mad drive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gorganl2000 Posted March 21, 2017 Author Share Posted March 21, 2017 that's all part of the reason the ep is such a nice car...the massive adrenaline rushi was hoping the 4wd blast/push would be even more incredible...but i suppose unless you up the power then its a heavier car to lug around i know people with modded evos and stis...but that's not the avenue i want to go down finding a stock evo owner locally that is WILLING to take me for a short drive may be quite the task...i've only seen about 2 that look stock on this island and very seldom do i see them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dub-se7en Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 yeah, it does seem to be a natural progression from the starlet....i really can't see any other car that i'd consider selling the ep91 for at the moment. i agree, the exhaust note is lovely...lol with regards to drive train fragility...when you say launches?---are you only referring to a standing launch? how about moving driving off and the quickly flooring it?...does this cause transfer case and differential issues too? getting rolling then flooring it should be fine, it's just standing launches can break things if done too often. same with most 4WD cars though to be honest, it's not that you shouldn't do them, it's you shouldn't do them too often ;) the evo has 2 step built in so will hold the revs at 5.5k if you floor it in neutral, so it's not like it's not designed to get off the line quick :} Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gorganl2000 Posted March 22, 2017 Author Share Posted March 22, 2017 even the votes are relatively close for either option... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ollieh17 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 even the votes are relatively close for either option... Ask on a evo forum lol and see the difference even the votes are relatively close for either option... Ask on a evo forum lol and see the difference Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Calum122 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Again my friend has had his box fettled with we suspect. But I cannot iterate enough how much he drives his 5 like he stole it. He absolutely munches the box. If this were a Pulsar it would have been dead on the way home. I am not exaggerating when I say how much he trashes the gearbox, flatout gear changes barely lifting from the throttle. Cold, Warm, rolling or standing still. No problems as of yet. However the evo four RS transfer box has died, he doesn't drive that. That is owned by a mature owner and is completely standard. So I've seen both sides. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gorganl2000 Posted March 22, 2017 Author Share Posted March 22, 2017 Ask on a evo forum lol and see the differenceAsk on a evo forum lol and see the difference lolol...i'm sure we'd not get too many votes in favor of the starlet----maybe the odd past starlet owner who now owns an evo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gorganl2000 Posted March 22, 2017 Author Share Posted March 22, 2017 Again my friend has had his box fettled with we suspect. But I cannot iterate enough how much he drives his 5 like he stole it. He absolutely munches the box. If this were a Pulsar it would have been dead on the way home. I am not exaggerating when I say how much he trashes the gearbox, flatout gear changes barely lifting from the throttle. Cold, Warm, rolling or standing still. No problems as of yet. However the evo four RS transfer box has died, he doesn't drive that. That is owned by a mature owner and is completely standard. So I've seen both sides. that's just amazing how both turn out....monster driver, box is working great (for now...lol)......while mature driver with T/box issues seems life is not really fair lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Calum122 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Yeah but they are both 20 year old cars with unknown history. Matthews Evo may have just a rebuild before leaving Japan. The ratios are definitely not GSR. The RS may have been thrashed in Japan and was hanging before it landed in the UK. Matthew had a White GSR before that. And he was constantly telling me the box was about to let go, but this car was absolute dog and had much more miles on the clock. We saw it last year at a meet still a dog, but still going. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobSR Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Like said transfer boxes can be an issue if you have a dump the clutch launch. If you take the slack out of the 4wd system and launch them they are fine. 5-speed RS boxes can take a hammering, they're happy to 600odd bhp unlike the 6-speeds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gorganl2000 Posted March 22, 2017 Author Share Posted March 22, 2017 how much is the 6 speed box rated to? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Calum122 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 I'm pretty sure the 5 speeds are stronger, hence why the RS will be 5 Speed. Pretty sure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gorganl2000 Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 i'm positive the 5 speed is stronger too...similar to the sti, levin, etc...as its an attempt to fit 6 gears and 5 gears into a "fixed" space,,,so 6 speed gears are usually thinner but i'm just wondering how strong the 6 speed actually is before it starts to become jelly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dub-se7en Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 The 5 Speed is the stronger box. Mine's a 5 speed. ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gorganl2000 Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 The 5 Speed is the stronger box. Mine's a 5 speed. ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AdamB Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 I've seen of the 5 speed boxes take 700-800bhp. As with anything, it depends how you treat it. Treat a 6 speed nicely it will probably handle 500bhp. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gorganl2000 Posted March 25, 2017 Author Share Posted March 25, 2017 I've seen of the 5 speed boxes take 700-800bhp. As with anything, it depends how you treat it. Treat a 6 speed nicely it will probably handle 500bhp. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AdamB Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 6 speed will be fine, with those mods you'd be up at 400/400 with a map and 3 port boost solenoid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dub-se7en Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 that's a fair bit of power either way....far more than i'd be wanting, as the plan is to keep it fairly stockish (intake, exhaust and suspension as mentioned previously)....so with those mods, i'd guess around 300/325bhp is what i'd be after so either gearbox would suit my needs it appears honestly, i dont think that will be enough power. to get the 'powerful starlet' feel, you're looking around 350-400bhp. that is achievable with bolt on mods and a remap Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gorganl2000 Posted March 30, 2017 Author Share Posted March 30, 2017 honestly, i dont think that will be enough power. to get the 'powerful starlet' feel, you're looking around 350-400bhp. that is achievable with bolt on mods and a remap thanks dub-se7en when you say "bolt on mods" what exactly do you mean over and above my proposed mods (exhaust and intake)? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AdamB Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Induction kit, exhaust, fuel pump and 3 port boost solenoid with remap will make 400bhp & 400ft/lbs. To get anymore you ideally need to change the turbo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gorganl2000 Posted March 30, 2017 Author Share Posted March 30, 2017 Induction kit, exhaust, fuel pump and 3 port boost solenoid with remap will make 400bhp & 400ft/lbs. To get anymore you ideally need to change the turbo. that's simple enough...i just don't want a case of selling the starlet to get out of the modding game,,,then to get an evo and end right back up in the same modding game ---turbos, manifolds, standalones, LSDs, etc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_g Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 You are kidding yourself on if you think you aint gonna mod an Evo!that's simple enough...i just don't want a case of selling the starlet to get out of the modding game,,,then to get an evo and end right back up in the same modding game ---turbos, manifolds, standalones, LSDs, etc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gorganl2000 Posted March 30, 2017 Author Share Posted March 30, 2017 You are kidding yourself on if you think you aint gonna mod an Evo! trust me...if i get one, it will simply be only those mild mods i mentionedi suppose a big part of me has grown away from it all over the years, but i do appreciate a decent sporty car Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AdamB Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 One of the reasons why I've considered not to get an Evo, because it will just end up a money pit, coilovers, roll bars, forged motor, big turbo kit and your £15-£20k deep. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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