Craigtrials95 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 After some help and advice with the electric power steering pump from a saxo. First off where have people mounted the pump unit and any photos?How have you wired it in?Ideally I'd like mine on a switch so I can shut it off Cheers Craig Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5T4R7ET N/A Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 I have seen it mounted behind the bumper on the drive side. You get bring up the reservoir bottle through a hole that already exists in the bottom corrner of the engine bayCant help with wiring haven't done mine yet, all i know its pretty staight forward with power and earth. But if you want a switch i would probably get a rocker switch. Ive seen some 20amp 12v ones which should do the job. Not 100% sure though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Craigtrials95 Posted May 17, 2017 Author Share Posted May 17, 2017 Cheers. Yeah that's where I've roughly planned in mounting it. The filler neck of bottle fits through where the abs pump sits. But the fittings for feed get in the way off chassis leg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
maddox710 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Did before on my glanza but the steering feel was vile and way too light. Also the pump is heavier than the stock mechanical pump Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TimD Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 I have this fitted to mine, if you have a look at my build thread you'll see some details. Can't comment on steering feel as I have yet to try it. The thing needs to be run through a relay, and not directly through a switch! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Craigtrials95 Posted May 18, 2017 Author Share Posted May 18, 2017 Cheers lads. Just want it switchable really for manevouring the car and have it off for fast road and track. Surely the steering feel is better when the pump is off? My pump has the built in reservoir too so feels like it will be a tight fit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ollieh17 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Just have no power steering. It really isn't that hard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TimD Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Energise the relay through a switch, simple enough. My experience of hydraulic assisted power steering racks, without any hydraulic assist would suggest that the steering will be far too heavy without it, but we shall see. Might be fine for a rip up and down the bypass once every now and again, but when you're on track for 30 or 40 minutes at a time, the last thing you need is physical fatigue through lack of power steering. Especially when you have a plated diff fighting your inputs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ollieh17 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Tbh if plan on having it on all the time the electric pump is not really worth the effort. As someone said, standard is lighter, alot easier to set up and probably even feels better!I gave up with the electric pump in the end and just looped the rack. Was alot of effort for something that I could easily live withoutProper way to do it would be go to a manual rack.it's a sub one ton car, bearing in mind Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Craigtrials95 Posted May 18, 2017 Author Share Posted May 18, 2017 How is the steering feel with the rack looped? Is it easy enough for a weekend toy and track day car? Could still be an option yet Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TimD Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Depends why you're doing it? I wanted to move to a single auxiliary belt to run a crank position sensor, it also cleared up that side of the engine bay to fit a proper air box behind the drivers side headlight. If you're doing it for the sake of doing it, or, because track car, there's probably not much point. The pump is heavier, and it'll more than likely sit further forward than the original, which isn't ideal either. It's easy enough to fit, I think it took me an afternoon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ollieh17 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 How is the steering feel with the rack looped? Is it easy enough for a weekend toy and track day car? Could still be an option yetWas heavier obviously, but not something I ever struggled with. My car now has no power steering from factory and doesn't feel that much harder. Bearing in mind women, grannies, etc used to drive non pas cars years ago must people should be fine with it lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
morgey Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 I had looped lines and didnt enjoy it, i live in the country with lots of twisty roads so you noticed it a fair amount. I've put an mr2 electric pump on mine, only driven it a few miles but its now too light, im going to wire it in to my speed signal to see if that makes any difference. Failing that i might try putting a restrictor in the feed line to reduce the pressure if possible Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TimD Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 I reckon you could wire a pot to the signal wire and make it adjustable.The Saxo/106 pumps are dumb, they're either on or they aren't. Do you have any details part numbers, etc of the MR2 pump? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
morgey Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Thats the one I've got. Has a ecu attached to it. Theres a few different wiring guides jotted about online.PUMP ASSY, VANE 44310-17050 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TimD Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Thanks, they aren't cheap, are they!? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ollieh17 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Don't corsas also have a similar thing? Common on kit cars Quote Link to post Share on other sites
morgey Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 I didnt buy a new one haha. Was about £75 with plugs and 6" of cable Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Craigtrials95 Posted May 20, 2017 Author Share Posted May 20, 2017 I'll probably just loop my rack and see how it feels if not try source a non pas rack. Does it need to be secured or high pressure hose to loop the rack? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
morgey Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 I just cut my high pressure side then looped the low pressure side and cable tied it to the metal collar on the HP side. I wasnt going to need mine again so thats why i did that. I have seen some honda boys fit a small resivior in the loop so the rack is alway full... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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