nazquflilma Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 I'm thinking of replacing the standard airbox with a performance filter....first of all, i would like to ask whether it is worth spending a lot of money on this part? Also any brands you would recommend? Are the unbranded cone filters (like those found on ebay) any good? I was looking at the apexi filters however there is a huge gap in price between these and the aforementioned unbranded ones Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Amjad Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 This has been covered quite a few times bud, try using the search option to take a look I doubt there'll be a massive difference to be honest, unless the unbranded really are TERRIBLE quality, I wouldn't bother shelling out £30-40+ just for branded ones.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
japcarmaniac Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 you will never notice the benefit from a branded or non branded one. you will however benefit if you can get a good cooler air supply to the filter no matter what the brand unless of cours it realy is a nast cheapo crap one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nazquflilma Posted September 16, 2009 Author Share Posted September 16, 2009 Thanks for the replies Any pointers on what to look out for and what to avoid?I've read mixed opinions about Apiro filters on other threads, any comments on these filters? They're really cheap on ebay....I would like to know whether they're any good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ste91 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Was just about to post up about Apiro filters but you got there first lol.I have one, can't fault it really.At the end of the day an air filter is an air filter, but you have to take into account how much air it can flow (how restrictive it is) and how much shit it lets through. I know this is old and most people have seen it many times but it's worth a look:http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/Surprisingly even the more expensive and rather common air filters like the Blitz and HKS actually have pretty crap filtration. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nazquflilma Posted September 16, 2009 Author Share Posted September 16, 2009 Was just about to post up about Apiro filters but you got there first lol.I have one, can't fault it really.At the end of the day an air filter is an air filter, but you have to take into account how much air it can flow (how restrictive it is) and how much shit it lets through. I know this is old and most people have seen it many times but it's worth a look:http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/Surprisingly even the more expensive and rather common air filters like the Blitz and HKS actually have pretty crap filtration.Thanks for the link..ver helpful So now it's between an apexi filter and the cheaper apiro....Does the apiro give the car a nice sound? If so I'll think I'll go for one of these --> LINKAlso what is the life expectancy of such filter? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve GT Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 doesnt really matter what filter you have but id reccomend relocating it to the front of the car though lol massive improvement in my opinion Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Amjad Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Looks good mate, but I'd make the most of it by buying a less restrictive aluminium/steel pipe too instead of using the stock rubber one, and then sort it out with a cold feed too!Haha I've got a K&N Panel filter but I think I'm tempted to get a cone myself now The life expectancy is usually beyond the life of the vehicle if the quality of the filter is decent, they just need to be cleaned & oiled every few thousand miles..Just found this, going really cheap! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...e=STRK:MEWAX:IT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nazquflilma Posted September 18, 2009 Author Share Posted September 18, 2009 Thanks I'll keep you all updated Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve GT Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 goog goog make sure you do lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ste91 Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 That kit is pretty much exactly what I had except I did mine myself, Apiro filter, aluminium pipe and a reducer. It worked well, and made a fucking great noise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve GT Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 haha my blitz sus filter made a fookin awesome noise too lol miss it though Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Starlet__SR Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 Ripspeed stainless steel mesh filter:) Damien Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nazquflilma Posted September 19, 2009 Author Share Posted September 19, 2009 Spent a day thinking about it.....i'm gonna save up a few more quid and buy one of them apexi filters brand new with the adapter....and then relocate it to the front (passenger side of the car) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bildo Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 I have a guide somewhere that did a really in-depth study into how well each filter works, a cheapo ebay one,and all other leading brands, Apexi came out a mile above the rest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Curtis Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 good choise bud glad you have seen the light not getting a crap filter, cheap filters have crap flow rate, the ones that have a good flow the actual filter is rubbish and lets particles of shit through which is not good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Curtis Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 I have a guide somewhere that did a really in-depth study into how well each filter works, a cheapo ebay one,and all other leading brands, Apexi came out a mile above the rest.exactly the point, i would rather keep the original filter on my car rather than getting a pikey filter off ebay.not worth the risk of sucking something into your engine and fucking it up Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve GT Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 seriously agree with curt here lol definiatly lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nazquflilma Posted September 19, 2009 Author Share Posted September 19, 2009 exactly the point, i would rather keep the original filter on my car rather than getting a pikey filter off ebay.not worth the risk of sucking something into your engine and fucking it upI reasoned that that if I buy something it must be better than the original....if something is worth doing it is worth doing well...at least that's what I thinkI have a guide somewhere that did a really in-depth study into how well each filter works, a cheapo ebay one,and all other leading brands, Apexi came out a mile above the restSomeone posted something similar above....don't think it's the same as it's a comparison between K&N, apexi, hks and blitz....So it's decided....next mod to my car will be an Apexi filter I think it's not that difficult to change it yourself eh? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve GT Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 I reasoned that that if I buy something it must be better than the original....if something is worth doing it is worth doing well...at least that's what I thinkno mate your totally right always worth doing something properly mateSomeone posted something similar above....don't think it's the same as it's a comparison between K&N, apexi, hks and blitz....So it's decided....next mod to my car will be an Apexi filter I think it's not that difficult to change it yourself eh?nah is it hell. its probably the easiest mod you can you yourself its just a jubilee clip really lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nazquflilma Posted September 19, 2009 Author Share Posted September 19, 2009 nah is it hell. its probably the easiest mod you can you yourself its just a jubilee clip really lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Asad Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 Got a k+n panel and never looked back Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve GT Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 not the greatest fan of fanel filters reallyarn't they more restrictive having the airbox than a relocated filter with cone sat right bang at the front of the car? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nazquflilma Posted November 6, 2009 Author Share Posted November 6, 2009 So I encountered my first problems (as usual ) Since my car came with a 2e engine from the factory, the airbox is different than that found in a 4efe or 4efte engine.This is the diagram of my airbox CLICK HERESo my questions are:What is the diameter of the air intake? What is the thermostatic valve (17728) found in the airbox and what is its function? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ryan lang Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 i bought an apiro 1 of ebay and it make a nice soundit was bought £45 including deliveryand it looks like thishope this helpshttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Universal-Performanc...=item2ea80be145 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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