greasemonkeyspb Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 wow makes me wanna really get my ass into gear and paint my engine been thinking about it for ages great build thread flying the flag for n/a dude.....much benefit from having oil catch can and those insulators on manifold and throttle body? as ive thought about these options too...but overall one of the better build threads mate nice work!!!steve. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
enzo_e492901 Posted May 30, 2011 Author Share Posted May 30, 2011 wow makes me wanna really get my ass into gear and paint my engine been thinking about it for ages great build thread flying the flag for n/a dude.....much benefit from having oil catch can and those insulators on manifold and throttle body? as ive thought about these options too...but overall one of the better build threads mate nice work!!!steve.Thanks mate that's really nice of you!As for the carch can and insulators, every little helps. lol The catch can works but it's never gonna collect the same ammount as one fitted to a turbo because n/a's don't blow as much by the rings. The manifold does stay cooler on short drives but still does become heat soaked on long blasts.Gavin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greasemonkeyspb Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 Thanks mate that's really nice of you!As for the carch can and insulators, every little helps. lol The catch can works but it's never gonna collect the same ammount as one fitted to a turbo because n/a's don't blow as much by the rings. The manifold does stay cooler on short drives but still does become heat soaked on long blasts.Gavinvery true mate ive been thinkin about it as like u say every little helps and they look cool as fook too haha and true dude where did u get catch can from??thanks dude ste Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nastyrash 2003 Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 all the turbo engine i am pulling apart are suffering with oil starvation on the outer edge, almost showing signs of radius ride. its caused by the main and big end pins being drilled thn machined, i have found big benafits to tapering the oil drilling that feed the shells also remove the sharp edges, a ported head gives great gains to this motor.chrisi hear u on the money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
enzo_e492901 Posted May 30, 2011 Author Share Posted May 30, 2011 very true mate ive been thinkin about it as like u say every little helps and they look cool as fook too haha and true dude where did u get catch can from??thanks dude ste I made the catch can, pics are somewhere in here. I'm working on a new lightweight one made from chemical and heat resistant fibreglass, so this one might be for sale in a month or two!Gavin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greasemonkeyspb Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 I made the catch can, pics are somewhere in here. I'm working on a new lightweight one made from chemical and heat resistant fibreglass, so this one might be for sale in a month or two!Gavingood work man!!! wish i had somewhere to have a go at stuff like that we got lathes etc @ work but theyy a bit funny bout peope using them lol where does it attach to breather pipes on mainfold and rocker cover??mmmmmmmmm i may be tempted by this haha ste Quote Link to post Share on other sites
miracle411 Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 One word, amazing! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
enzo_e492901 Posted May 30, 2011 Author Share Posted May 30, 2011 all the turbo engine i am pulling apart are suffering with oil starvation on the outer edge, almost showing signs of radius ride. its caused by the main and big end pins being drilled thn machined, i have found big benafits to tapering the oil drilling that feed the shells also remove the sharp edges, a ported head gives great gains to this motor.chrisi hear u on the money.If that's true I had better think again about running an oil-to-water cooler and an oil-to-air cooler because of the pressure drop(s). What do you think Chris?good work man!!! wish i had somewhere to have a go at stuff like that we got lathes etc @ work but theyy a bit funny bout peope using them lol where does it attach to breather pipes on mainfold and rocker cover??mmmmmmmmm i may be tempted by this haha steYeah mate one line runs from the valve cover to the can and the other runs from the can to the intake manifold. Like this manifold vacuum pulls the oil and water vapour/blow by gases from the valve cover to the manifold but the can catches it before it gets there.One word, amazing!Cheers BudGavin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Johnboy GT Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 That is some amazing skills dude, i wish i had the know how on how to make that fibreglass parts. Your attention is cracking dude!As Sparky says it is inspiring! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
enzo_e492901 Posted May 30, 2011 Author Share Posted May 30, 2011 That is some amazing skills dude, i wish i had the know how on how to make that fibreglass parts. Your attention is cracking dude!As Sparky says it is inspiring!Thank you very much.If you or anyone else wants to know anything about the things in this thread or anything else for that matter, just ask! I will try my very best to help and advise you. I can do wood work and basic electronics as well! People can PM me if they would prefer.Gavin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nastyrash 2003 Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 just shim up the presure relif valve its located on the under side of the block with sump off, to bring back any lost presure mate. chris.check out redz11 build + old build i tuned that 1, raffa engine i am in the process of modding, rayan langs will be the pinical of 4e tunning keep an eye on that, as for me i have a corrola i am getting track ready, thinking of going 5e thw and a black v that will just be for shows but will be running around 160-80hp no more. i'm struggling for time to get on my own motors. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
enzo_e492901 Posted May 31, 2011 Author Share Posted May 31, 2011 just shim up the presure relif valve its located on the under side of the block with sump off, to bring back any lost presure mate. chris.check out redz11 build + old build i tuned that 1, raffa engine i am in the process of modding, rayan langs will be the pinical of 4e tunning keep an eye on that, as for me i have a corrola i am getting track ready, thinking of going 5e thw and a black v that will just be for shows but will be running around 160-80hp no more. i'm struggling for time to get on my own motors.I thought the oil pressure relief valve only controlled the maximum pressure the system is allowed to reach? Therefore shimming it would only change the maximum pressure.orDoes it start to open at a lower pressure and constantly bleed a little pressure/oil off?I guess i'll have to find out, somehow!Gavin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lewis_GTT Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Absolutely love the attention to detail mate and the neatness of the bay!! colour scheme is mint. Keep it up dude Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nastyrash 2003 Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 it regulates constantly at peak presure but normaly around 3k rpm mark which is wer the presure needs to be at low down rpm starting to build up ready for mid to high end rpms. so yes it regulates full presure but u hit that very quick on most engines. how old are u mate just out of interest.chris. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shahzad Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Do you have the part number and price for the rear quater panel? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
enzo_e492901 Posted May 31, 2011 Author Share Posted May 31, 2011 Absolutely love the attention to detail mate and the neatness of the bay!! colour scheme is mint. Keep it up dudeThank you bud and I will do!it regulates constantly at peak presure but normaly around 3k rpm mark which is wer the presure needs to be at low down rpm starting to build up ready for mid to high end rpms. so yes it regulates full presure but u hit that very quick on most engines. how old are u mate just out of interest.chris.Thought so, I guessed peak pressure would be at about 3k. That all makes sense now! I'm 28 mate.Do you have the part number and price for the rear quater panel?I'll try and dig it out for you, I'm sure I still have the paperwork somewhere. They aint cheap!Gavin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nastyrash 2003 Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 its just under around 2.7k it hits peak but its not just a on off switch so u will find that it starts to regulate presure right away, slowly opening the valve as it forces the spring back so any adjustment of the presure relif valve will affect oil presure as low as idle, but different on cold start on this engine, oil has tobe up to temp to check.chris i would have put the catch can on the other pipe as it is this 1 that fouls the TB with oil. but a very tidy job u have done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
enzo_e492901 Posted May 31, 2011 Author Share Posted May 31, 2011 its just under around 2.7k it hits peak but its not just a on off switch so u will find that it starts to regulate presure right away, slowly opening the valve as it forces the spring back so any adjustment of the presure relif valve will affect oil presure as low as idle, but different on cold start on this engine, oil has tobe up to temp to check.chris i would have put the catch can on the other pipe as it is this 1 that fouls the TB with oil. but a very tidy job u have done.I did think about using the other one because that's the one that gets used when there is no vacuum (most of the time) but I used the other one because the inside of the manifold seemed to have more oil on it than the inside of the throttle body/butterfly. I guess the ideal solution would be to run 2 catch cans but thats not practical. Any thoughts about how to catch the oil/blow by gases from both lines without using 2 cans while still retaining total functionality?Cheers ChrisGavin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ryan lang Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 amazing attention to detail on this bad boy. sooo wish i had a garage and a runaround to put this kind of attention into my n/a ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nastyrash 2003 Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 I did think about using the other one because that's the one that gets used when there is no vacuum (most of the time) but I used the other one because the inside of the manifold seemed to have more oil on it than the inside of the throttle body/butterfly. I guess the ideal solution would be to run 2 catch cans but thats not practical. Any thoughts about how to catch the oil/blow by gases from both lines without using 2 cans while still retaining total functionality?Cheers ChrisGavinits down to personal preference but the pcv for me is to tight, the valve is very restrictive so i cant see much oil /carbon getting thw into inlet + most inlets i have seen are not very oily, in my opinion fella its the TB that suffers with fouling and this then collects all the dirt that the filter misses out, causing all kinds of throttle respons problems (flat spots), and it is this 1 that is running most of the time and at high chat which is wen crank case gasses are at thr peak. wat are u thinking of for your ignition side, wat mods u got at present??a little lube in the inlet runners will act as a aid to help flow as air also suffers from friction on the outer edges wer it contacts the runner walls, known as the boundry layer, the thing to watch out for is if your valve heads are showing signs of carbon build up on the back face this can indeed cause the valve not to flow as it should (but i have never seen this on this engine apart from the exhaust valve, or wen valve stem seals have failed due to high cylinder temps = bad tuning). chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
enzo_e492901 Posted June 1, 2011 Author Share Posted June 1, 2011 Do you have the part number and price for the rear quater panel?I'll try and dig it out for you, I'm sure I still have the paperwork somewhere. They aint cheap!GavinThis is the drivers side (RH) quarter panel part number for a 1997 sportif: 61601-1C370. (I have seen different numbers for different cars!) Price is £201.01 plus V.A.T. That price may very well have 10% off it too, I can't remember!amazing attention to detail on this bad boy. sooo wish i had a garage and a runaround to put this kind of attention into my n/a Cheers Ryan. I know what ya mean, it was a nightmare when mine was off the road.its down to personal preference but the pcv for me is to tight, the valve is very restrictive so i cant see much oil /carbon getting thw into inlet + most inlets i have seen are not very oily, in my opinion fella its the TB that suffers with fouling and this then collects all the dirt that the filter misses out, causing all kinds of throttle respons problems (flat spots), and it is this 1 that is running most of the time and at high chat which is wen crank case gasses are at thr peak. wat are u thinking of for your ignition side, wat mods u got at present??a little lube in the inlet runners will act as a aid to help flow as air also suffers from friction on the outer edges wer it contacts the runner walls, known as the boundry layer, the thing to watch out for is if your valve heads are showing signs of carbon build up on the back face this can indeed cause the valve not to flow as it should (but i have never seen this on this engine apart from the exhaust valve, or wen valve stem seals have failed due to high cylinder temps = bad tuning). chrisI will think about swapping the catch can over!I am probably gonna run an MSD 6A for ignition, it's the only thing I can find that's not too expensive. I too have looked into modifying the distributor cap for an external coil.It's hard to say what mods are on it at the minute as I really can't remember. lol Some mods are fitted and some aren't. But below is a list of mods that have been or will be fitted by the time i'm done this year. In about 4 months, I hope!Engine...EP82 JDM Gi 4E-FE (Gen 1) (Different Inlet Manifold, Camshafts, Valve Springs, Crankshaft and Connecting Rods. Pink Injectors and a Baffled Sump) Fully Rebuilt with ALL NEW Genuine Toyota Sensors, Gaskets and Seals, Bearings/Shells, Piston Rings, Water and Oil Pumps, Timing Belt Kit, Distributor Cap and Rotor Arm, Flywheel, Engine Mounts, Headbolts, Locating Pins, Pegs and Dowels.TRD 0.6MM Metal Head GasketMagnetic Sump PlugC J Performance Lightweight Alternator, Water Pump and Power Steering Pump PulleysC J Performance Lightweight Adjustable Cam GearAll Stainless Steel Nuts and Bolts Except Critical LocationsIntake System...Carina E 50mm Throttle BodyCustom Fibreglass Induction System with Cold Air FeedCustom Fibreglass Catch Tank-6 Earls Hose and FittingsITG Maxogen Air FilterCustom Teflon Throttle Body InsulatorCustom Teflon Inlet Manifold InsulatorExhaust System...Corolla 4-2-1 Exhaust ManifoldGlanza S Back BoxHeat Wrapped DownpipeOil System...Mocal Oil Filter RelocatorMocal 10 Row Oil-to-Air CoolerMocal Oil ThermostatLaminova Oil-to-Water CoolerTRD Oil Filter-10 Speedflow Hose and FittingsCooling System...Half Size Civic RadiatorSlimline Radiator FanCustom Fibreglass Fan ShroudCustom Water Swirl Pot incorporating a Constant Bleed SystemTRD Rad CapTRD Low Temp ThermostatSamco HosesFuel System...Custom Fuel RailFuelab Rising Rate Fuel Pressure RegulatorFuelab Fuel Filter-6 Earls Hose and FittingsIgnition System...MSD Digital 6A Ignition SystemUltra Blue Point Silicone Ignition LeadsTRD Grade 7 Spark PlugsDrivetrain...Custom Quick Change Gear ShifterPolyurethane Gear Linkage BushesElectronicsGen 1 88HP Corolla ECUCustom Starter, Alternator and Power CablesCustom Earthing CablesAEM Wideband Air/Fuel Ratio GaugeStack Pro Exhaust Gas Temperature, Fuel Pressure, Oil Temperature, Water Temperature and Oil Pressure GaugesSome time in the future, I hope...Nitrous OxideThere is probably some things missing from the lists.Gavin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nastyrash 2003 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 just did a sex wee??. lok at the fc 2000 analog with a c4 coil will be much easyer to fit and is cap discharge and also multi spark duration (MSD) the 3000 is digital and is worth that did more the msd 6a is analog but thr coil packs are duck all on the c4 (wen running this coil open up your spark gap and make sure your ingnition timing is bang on it realy does kick anus. (had a head gasket go on a track nova once and the ignition system was that good that the water squirting into the cylinder caused a super charging effect and it never missed a beat, u could watch the exspantion tank empty and expand like a baloon on aceleration lov um)jacobs electronics mate is wer i shop.chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
enzo_e492901 Posted June 2, 2011 Author Share Posted June 2, 2011 just did a sex wee??. lok at the fc 2000 analog with a c4 coil will be much easyer to fit and is cap discharge and also multi spark duration (MSD) the 3000 is digital and is worth that did more the msd 6a is analog but thr coil packs are duck all on the c4 (wen running this coil open up your spark gap and make sure your ingnition timing is bang on it realy does kick anus. (had a head gasket go on a track nova once and the ignition system was that good that the water squirting into the cylinder caused a super charging effect and it never missed a beat, u could watch the exspantion tank empty and expand like a baloon on aceleration lov um)jacobs electronics mate is wer i shop.chrisYeah it should be good when I get it done.I'll do some more research but I think the Fire Control 2000 and 3000 is out of my price range.Cheers ChrisGavin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shahzad Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Thanks for the part number Quote Link to post Share on other sites
enzo_e492901 Posted August 1, 2011 Author Share Posted August 1, 2011 (edited) Now that I have ordered most of the parts I'm gonna need it's time for a little update on the parts I've already been collecting over the past few months. Chemically Cleaned Corolla 4-2-1 Exhaust Manifold. Threaded for E.G.T Gauge. Painted Mocal Oil Cooler Turbo Thermostst Housing (Used to supply water to the oil-to-water oil cooler using what would of been the turbo water lines) Civic Half Size Radiator 1 of 3 Stack Carbon Gauge Pods Glanza S Back Box (I didn't know they were made from stainless steel! Bonus!) Restored Headlight Protectors New Door, Boot and Window Seals and Weatherstrips Corolla Gen 1 88HP ECU More to come in a few weeks! Gavin Edited September 29, 2020 by enzo_e492901 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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