ryan lang Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 would a forged 4efe be able to handle boost or would i need the 4efte? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
durmz Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 i dont see why it wouldnt, but it would be more awkward to do surely? ie for uprated parts and stuff? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky boy Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 No a forged 4efe will not be able to handle boost you will need low compression pistions Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ryan lang Posted May 19, 2010 Author Share Posted May 19, 2010 would the uprated glanza parts not fit into it if it was bored out a little? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky boy Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Now i think you can do that but what would be the point in doing that you my aswell buy a 4efte lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ryan lang Posted May 19, 2010 Author Share Posted May 19, 2010 i know but theyre cheaper, and ive already got a 4efe in my car lmao, and seein as im not in work atm i dont need my car on the road lmao, it was just a thought to see if it would work lol, fastest 4efe ever? lmao Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky boy Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Lmao get your self back to work buy a right off Glanza and do the conversion Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riko666 Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 No a forged 4efe will not be able to handle boost you will need low compression pistions And why not? One of the old Starlet pioneers from Australia installed a TD04 on a bone-stock 4E-FE once to the tune of more than 200bhp and reasonable amounts of boost, and I won't even start talking of the plethora of stock internal 5E-FHE's and the power they have made reliably throughout the years. It all depends basically on the path you wish to follow - stock internals can be done, but huge priority is placed on the tune and engine management. Forged components can give the extra buffer from a less than perfect map and will surely take boost; again, high c/r components can be used, all it means is that when using higher boost levels the detonation threshold is reduced. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky boy Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 And why not? One of the old Starlet pioneers from Australia installed a TD04 on a bone-stock 4E-FE once to the tune of more than 200bhp and reasonable amounts of boost, and I won't even start talking of the plethora of stock internal 5E-FHE's and the power they have made reliably throughout the years. It all depends basically on the path you wish to follow - stock internals can be done, but huge priority is placed on the tune and engine management. Forged components can give the extra buffer from a less than perfect map and will surely take boost; again, high c/r components can be used, all it means is that when using higher boost levels the detonation threshold is reduced.I knew there would be someone to slap me with a fish and it had to be you riko I thought with the compression been diffrent it would not work! ah well my bad thanks for explaining that for me and puting me right riko babe Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ryan lang Posted May 19, 2010 Author Share Posted May 19, 2010 Lmao get your self back to work buy a right off Glanza and do the conversion im tryin to get back into work lmao, i got a bloody holiday booked to pay for, thats if this ash cloud decides to go away, i do intend to do a forged rebuild when im back in work because im moving out of my house to a big house with a 4 car drive and a garage and a huge shed, that hopefully ill be able to take over but first things first i need a bloody job lmao Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lukEp Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 The rolla nastyrash is doing is a compleatly stock 4efe with a turbo off a gt strapped to it and he will be using a megasquirt stand alone ecu. it's not far off compleat the last time I looked should be a little monster. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riko666 Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 I knew there would be someone to slap me with a fish and it had to be you riko I thought with the compression been diffrent it would not work! ah well my bad thanks for explaining that for me and puting me right riko babe Teehee, well, we could it a "fish" what I'll be spanking you with later Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky boy Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Teehee, well, we could it a "fish" what I'll be spanking you with later you big tease Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nastyrash 2003 Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 yep the stock engine has lots of very different parts to the turbo,= thermostate housing, inlet manifold, throttle body, dampend pully, external coil + king lead, oil filter sandwich plate, sump, nock sensor, flywheel & clutch are but a few, and as i have found the ECU on the turbo is quite a bit more advanced as the standard dizzy with internal coil only has a singl hall sensor. the turbo with external coil has both a rpm and cam position sensor + knock control. but thr are many bolt on electronic parts you can bye to add these systems to a standard 4efe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Asad Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Where are you getting the megasquirt from ^^ ready built?? or building it yourself? looked at getting one just wasn`t sure on the dizzy set up for the N/A so opted to look into coilpack/EDIS route and trigger wheel Should better ignition control and a stabler idle with it.A Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nastyrash 2003 Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Where are you getting the megasquirt from ^^ ready built?? or building it yourself? looked at getting one just wasn`t sure on the dizzy set up for the N/A so opted to look into coilpack/EDIS route and trigger wheel Should better ignition control and a stabler idle with it.Asorry for the late reply fella, i import thm from america in kit form (much cheaper), and yes build thm my self. i use the mega squirt 2, just as the EFI controler. the only down side to thm iz thy are batch firing. and use MSD ignition control mainly because it has mulity spark duration at lower rpms and iz capasitive discharge digital amp, with the c4 coil 65kv u know. you can use the singel dizzy off the turbo it has a rpm pick up on it, but are much easyer ways of puting after market pro ignition amps on the car. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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