Taggy Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Fitting my WMS brakes today one side went on with no problems, but the other side was a nightmare, the braided line which was on already from a previous owner had completly seized, after an hour half i thought i had it then the bloody fitting sheared off the brake line by the suspension.How the hell do i repair this ASAP, i need to get this repaired before i go to Castle combe on Sat!!!Please help!Right side went on fineOld DiscCompletly shagged discs!The broken line i need to repair (need to put a new fitting on it)Shreared fittingOne that was supposed to take its place Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bullet513 Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 youl need to take the whole line off back to the abs (if fitted) master cylinder and take it to a garage to have a new one made up. shouldnt cost to much.unless youve got the correct tools and a meter of copper brake pipe you wont be able to do it yourself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james@cjperformance Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 I have a flaring tool here if you need it and think i have a few spare fittings too. you will just need a roll of copper brake line to finish her off Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Russleh Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 this also happened to me. i replaced the whole line back to the point where all the fluid lines go to. So this doesnt happen again ill be making my own custom lines to go from that point right to the caliper. Been too many times having bother with the stupid connection between the hard and braided lines. Russell Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Taggy Posted September 8, 2011 Author Share Posted September 8, 2011 why do i need to replace the whole line? I have seen tools today so you can do it when its on the car, got the fitting i just need someone to flare the end of the pipe for me, wondering if a garage can do it for me.Otherwise the tool to do it my self if £45!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
_shaun_ Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 james already offered u the tool Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GT Phayer Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 we have them at work you just flare were its broek nand create a join then new bit of pipe from there to the caliper Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Taggy Posted September 8, 2011 Author Share Posted September 8, 2011 can someone explain to me how the flaring tool works and how i should do it, start to finish?I have picked up the connector which goes onto the copper, but i assume i need to flare the pipe that it goes on, does it just go straight on doesnt seem to be any rubber grommets or washers or anything.Someone give me some advice on how to do it pleaseThanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Asad Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 do you have the tool in front of you? i can talk you through it.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Taggy Posted September 8, 2011 Author Share Posted September 8, 2011 was looking at buying this one to do on the carhttp://www.screwfix.com/p/laser-automotive-flaring-kit/15190seems small enough so i can use the existing pipe work in the arch, as its looks like a royal pain in the ass to replace the whole line. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bullet513 Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 IMO i wouldnt flare a copper pipe thats 10+ years old, likely to crack and not seal properly, the correct way of doing it is to replace the whole pipe. thats what i would do... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ryan lang Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 make sure you put the fitting on before you flare it i have a brand new hardpipe you can come pick up tomorrow if you want? £15 i might be at JAE, but kurt can get them from the car for you? just keep the part number for me so i can get 1 in the future Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Taggy Posted September 8, 2011 Author Share Posted September 8, 2011 Problem is that i am supposed to be going to castle combe this Sat and time isnt on my side! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ryan33hks Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Craig, there's a cracking place in bridgend i've used for brake stuff. They can pretty much make anything up. Let me know what you need and i can call in there after work tommorrow if that's any help. My mate had 2 brake lines made up for his quad, made them for him at 5 o clock and charged a tenner! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Asad Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 any motorfactors will sell you the copper pipe and ends bud, looks like your going to have to buy the tool too and replace the whole pipe....will be costly but you`ll be done in a matter of hours Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Taggy Posted September 8, 2011 Author Share Posted September 8, 2011 Its a nightmare because i have got work tomorrow and i need to rush around to get it sorted. Stressing me out as i have spent nearly £100 in track time!!Only way i reckon i can get it done in time now is if i flare it my self, pissin pain in the arse thats what is it!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daveEP82 Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 sorry to go off topic but what make were your old discs? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Taggy Posted September 8, 2011 Author Share Posted September 8, 2011 Nice one Mr Lang, hes just sorted me out a toyota original replcement copper pipe, so its already factory bent to fit Now that is a stroke of luck!!Just gotta get it and fit it and then have a nightmare no doubt bleeding it lolz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Taggy Posted September 8, 2011 Author Share Posted September 8, 2011 Sorry not sure on the make of them, been on there since i bought the car and as you can see from them i have hammered the hell out of them on the track, wore all of the grooves off and they are cracked to hell from being baked to death!!Rip discs!!Nice one Mr Lang, hes just sorted me out a toyota original replcement copper pipe, so its already factory bent to fit Now that is a stroke of luck!!Just gotta get it and fit it and then have a nightmare no doubt bleeding it lolz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simon Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Looking at that by the time you have cut that back square and got a new fitting on there is not enough pipe before the bend to get a good flare on thatIf the ep82 is the same as the EP91 where this goes inside the wing does it go to a conector?If it does take it off there mate and remove the pipe should be about 15cm long take that to any local garage and they should be able to copy it and make you one thats what i did when it happened to me cost me a fiver. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ryan lang Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 yeah, just order me another from toyota when you can dude because ive got braided lines to go on too , but my cars fudged so wont be needing them for a whilei think it was about £17 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Taggy Posted September 8, 2011 Author Share Posted September 8, 2011 Hey Ryan can i get both sides off you just in case the other one is fudged too as i had to feck around for ages to get it off and i didnt want to run the risk of it being buggered too when i go to put the fluid in.I'll order you a new set then or send it back to you if i dont need it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Russleh Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Glad you got it sorted Its defo better to replace the whole thing anyway. I tried to cut mine and then add a join it it further up so i didnt have to do the whole thing but couldnt get it to seal and just ended up raging and doin it all anyway ha. Its awesome how much fellow members help each other out Russell Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ryan lang Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 yeah no worries bud, ill get them out of my car ready for you then dude, just give me a text what time you can get here Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keri-WMS Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Hope this worked out all right! By the way, most OEM metal lines are steel, not copper - meaning flaring them can be a bt tough! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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