PaulStarletSR Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 my understanding is that a td12 is a combination of a td04 and a ct12, its a mixture of bits from.cant remember what tho.and if u need precise info on a gt30, ask socks, hes runnin 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shorty Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 If you want good response and minimal lag for upto 220hp it should be a hybrid hands down everytime!! Td04 at 220hp is pointless as its just added lag! Td04 is better at 260-270hp as the lag atleast is compensated by massive pull! As for the vf statement a vf28 will be simlar in lag to a td04 due to being a p20 exhuast housing so its quite large on the backend but is ballbearing wich aids spool but is no way less laggy or anything like a hybrid! I run a vf24 wich uses the p18 rear end and i also run 75.5mm pistons and that spooled slightly quicker than td04. if you want minimal lag go hybrid! My ct9/ct20 hybrid and tongs gt spec hybrid both pulled insanley well and spooled very quickly! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
td04 glanza Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 If you want good response and minimal lag for upto 220hp it should be a hybrid hands down everytime!! Td04 at 220hp is pointless as its just added lag! Td04 is better at 260-270hp as the lag atleast is compensated by massive pull! As for the vf statement a vf28 will be simlar in lag to a td04 due to being a p20 exhuast housing so its quite large on the backend but is ballbearing wich aids spool but is no way less laggy or anything like a hybrid! I run a vf24 wich uses the p18 rear end and i also run 75.5mm pistons and that spooled slightly quicker than td04. if you want minimal lag go hybrid! My ct9/ct20 hybrid and tongs gt spec hybrid both pulled insanley well and spooled very quickly!Great info dude, confirms what i was thinking where did you get your hybrids if you dont mint me asking? Or where can i get one? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shorty Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Ct12 housing and exhuast casting woth td04 blades all machined to fit. probably mildly more lag than the gt spec hybrid but still faster than td04 and a gt30 will not spool as fast as a hybrid set up but if you have a good map on a good ecu you will get mildly better spool than a td04 but as socks runs 370hp id say a gt30 is a bit big for a car wanting 200-240hp.There is very little point running a huge turbo at little boost as its like blowing down a tunnel at a paper ball!! If you want to move the paper ball blow down a staw and you get a faster result ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shorty Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Gt spec tongs was from enzo when he still sold em and the ct9/ct20 was an accidental find about 6years ago lol i killed it though lol. talk to midland turbos or crturbos in hampshire as they have built a good few hybrid ct9's bud with good results Quote Link to post Share on other sites
td04 glanza Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 ah cool yeh will give them both a shout nearer the time Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dickydan Posted September 15, 2012 Author Share Posted September 15, 2012 (edited) Yeaah most probably goin down the hybrid route then!! Whats the diff between gt spec, tongs an just a ported ct9b?? Edited September 15, 2012 by Dickydan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MARC MOSS Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I have a tongs gt hybrid I ran it at 1.2 for years and it's amazing off of the line,quick spool and fuck all lag.. She dyno,d out at 214 bhp five years ago ... I ran a td04 on my first engine and the tongs shocked me when I fitted it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shorty Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Tongs gt spec has a larger intake and better compressor wheel, alowing it to intake and flow more air and increasing tje efficiency range at higher boost than a stock ct9 and also has a larger wastegate port and penny, aiding boost stability and helping to avoid creep.A ported ct9b has one additional blade on the compressor wheel over a ct9a (the b's where fitted to glanza's and the addtional blade was in an effort to compensate the heavier kerb weight) and if its ported id guess the wastegate is mildly ported to try and combat boost creep, this will jelp over stock but not as much as the larger port that a td12 or ct9 gt spec both have. the ct9b will be out of effeicency by 1bar and make around 180-190. The hybrids will boost to 1.2-1.3 bar and make 210-240 depending on the spec. id go td12 or gt spec. td12 being marinly laggyer than the gt but flowing more power than the gt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
td04 glanza Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I've messaged crturbo's shorty mate, would they know what spec a gt spec hybrid consists off? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dickydan Posted September 15, 2012 Author Share Posted September 15, 2012 Hmm thinkin of a gt hybrid then or a td12 probs the hybrid tbh Quote Link to post Share on other sites
td04 glanza Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Let me know if you find somewhere to buy them mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shorty Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Unlikley they will know bud but they do offer good advice on what they think will work well. the gt spec and td12 where both made by tongs turbos and enzo on here used to stock/supply them. its posable he can put you on to a way of ordering one still if your lucky. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Corey Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 If you want good response and minimal lag for upto 220hp it should be a hybrid hands down everytime!! Td04 at 220hp is pointless as its just added lag! Td04 is better at 260-270hp as the lag atleast is compensated by massive pull! As for the vf statement a vf28 will be simlar in lag to a td04 due to being a p20 exhuast housing so its quite large on the backend but is ballbearing wich aids spool but is no way less laggy or anything like a hybrid! I run a vf24 wich uses the p18 rear end and i also run 75.5mm pistons and that spooled slightly quicker than td04. if you want minimal lag go hybrid! My ct9/ct20 hybrid and tongs gt spec hybrid both pulled insanley well and spooled very quickly!Vf28 has p18 housing iirc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ollie454 Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 I had a ct12 hybrid on my old v was awesome hardly any lag and really did pull hard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dickydan Posted September 17, 2012 Author Share Posted September 17, 2012 Can u remember what revs roughly it started to spool and when u hit full boost?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
td04 glanza Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Got a quote from crturbo's to hybrid a ct9, If you send them your ct9 they will rebuild and hybrid it for £500 aslong as your turbo housing is in good condition. Just to let anyone know thats looking to get it done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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