mark-tozer Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 as above is there much difference from the gt turbo gearbox and glanza. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azz Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 IIRC I'm sure the GT boxs is stronger as that is what socks is now using Quote Link to post Share on other sites
morgey Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 stronger but longer gearing in the lower gears, i believe i heard? or read? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Burny Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Yes the GT box has longer ratio in third and fourth i believe, not sure if it is actually stronger though, i managed to strip every cog off third gear lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mark-tozer Posted December 11, 2012 Author Share Posted December 11, 2012 ok thanks guys. which gearbox did you strip 3rd gear on lol and its there any stronger cogs to put in or did you just replace with genuine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Burny Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 On the C52 (GT box) - i had a spare glanza box in the garage so swapped diffs and thats now on there, we'll soon see how long it lasts when we have some better weather Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socks Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 The C52 GT Box has been said to be stronger from a few different people with big power...Bit like the GT FTE Engines had fatter Conrods. etcNot confirmed if there actually stronger, but the longer 3rd gear is defo noticable in the high power EP's! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mark-tozer Posted December 11, 2012 Author Share Posted December 11, 2012 ok thanks for info. so both of you guys are running standard gearboxes with standard gears and ratios. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socks Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Other then a differential....Yes Stock... Very little in terms of upgrade options without spending massive money Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mark-tozer Posted December 12, 2012 Author Share Posted December 12, 2012 (edited) Other then a differential....Yes Stock... Very little in terms of upgrade options without spending massive money i want to get a qualife lsd at some point. so your gearbox is doing ok then have you gone through many gears. Edited December 12, 2012 by mark-tozer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azz Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 It seems that people strip 3rd gear with over x amount of bhp.Other options are dog boxes but your looking at least £3000You can use a g6 box but to my knowledge no one has tried big bhp with them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mark-tozer Posted December 12, 2012 Author Share Posted December 12, 2012 It seems that people strip 3rd gear with over x amount of bhp.Other options are dog boxes but your looking at least £3000You can use a g6 box but to my knowledge no one has tried big bhp with themyeh i did see looking through socks thread he striped 3rd gear. the problem is the gearboxes are old in these now and were only designed for 133bhp. so there not doing bad really. i did see a g6 box for sale on ebay but wasnt sure if i need any different parts like gear linkage etc and hasnt been tested much over 200bhp. at the moment im only running 215bhp so only baby power to alot of you guys. but eventually want to be getting 250bhp-300bhp. my 2nd and 3rd syncro are on there way out. im buying a glanza gearbox to put in for the time. this is why i was wondering if they were much different. then i will strip my old box down and hopefully fix it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AdamB Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 (edited) Don't think the material composition of the gears themselves are actually any different. Its just the fact the GT has a longer 3rd and 4th gear, which helps with the transfer of torque.That said the C56 glanza box had shorter ratio's to pull its fat ass, as well as having the extra blade on the turbo Edited December 12, 2012 by AdamB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Xpect Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 4E-FTE Ep82 C521. 3.1662. 1.9043. 1.3104. 0.9695. 0.815Diff 3.7224E-FTE Ep92 C561. 3.1662. 1.9043. 1.3924. 1.0315. 0.815Diff 3.722I let this here for you discussing on Glanza and GT boxes... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mark-tozer Posted December 12, 2012 Author Share Posted December 12, 2012 4E-FTE Ep82 C521. 3.1662. 1.9043. 1.3104. 0.9695. 0.815Diff 3.7224E-FTE Ep92 C561. 3.1662. 1.9043. 1.3924. 1.0315. 0.815Diff 3.722I let this here for you discussing on Glanza and GT boxes...thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simon Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 There are aftermarket parts availble off the shelf to build a very strong box but as Matt says it's big money Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lugzy clart Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 i put a glanza box in my gt n it was horrible i cant wait to hav a gt box back in her was surprized how much of a difference it makes tho Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mark-tozer Posted December 13, 2012 Author Share Posted December 13, 2012 (edited) i put a glanza box in my gt n it was horrible i cant wait to hav a gt box back in her was surprized how much of a difference it makes tho alright really ? im putting a glanza box in to my gt surely cant be that different with just the 3rd and 4th ratio being slightly different. Edited December 13, 2012 by mark-tozer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Xpect Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 With the Glanza Box the car should accelerate faster but hit the Rev-Limit at a lower speed.This is due to third and fourth gear being shorter in gearing.You can calculate at what speed exactly, depending on diameter of tires and max RPM. But honestly, I forgot how exactly the calculation worked, also I don't know the exact size of your tires. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AdamB Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 The top speed will still be the same as the 5th and final drive ratios are the same in both boxes. Just the C56 3rd and 4th gear will top out faster and at a lower speed than that of a C52 box. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rmsnoel Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Google search gearratio speed calculator and gearbox man has a really good excel speedsheet with graph to show you the speeds in each gear. Also allows you to see what would happen if you changed your diff ratio or fitted a 6speed or even from a different toyota and just used your gt bellhousing. I know that if I conerted to manual and put the paseo diff in my starlet gearbox I would have a very very fast n/a up until the 96mph on the rev limit in 5th.They say a gt bogs down in 3rd and 4th so toyota made 3rd 4th closer to speed them up abit. But they were standard cars and all you lads are running bigger boost so none of that matters.GT's are faster so keep bolting GT parts on, lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mark-tozer Posted December 18, 2012 Author Share Posted December 18, 2012 Google search gearratio speed calculator and gearbox man has a really good excel speedsheet with graph to show you the speeds in each gear. Also allows you to see what would happen if you changed your diff ratio or fitted a 6speed or even from a different toyota and just used your gt bellhousing. I know that if I conerted to manual and put the paseo diff in my starlet gearbox I would have a very very fast n/a up until the 96mph on the rev limit in 5th.They say a gt bogs down in 3rd and 4th so toyota made 3rd 4th closer to speed them up abit. But they were standard cars and all you lads are running bigger boost so none of that matters.GT's are faster so keep bolting GT parts on, lol thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Xpect Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Paseo 5EFE1. 3,5452. 1,9043. 1,3104. 0,9695. 0,815Diff 3,941Yep, the Paso Diff would make a difference.I personnally would go for the 6-Speed Gearbox of the Corolla E11E11 6-Gang 1,6&1,4L C1611. 3,1662. 1,9043. 1,2334. 0,9695. 0,8156. 0,682Diff 4,529 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simon Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 That box is weak though and all you have is an extra gear within the same ratio's might be useful for an NA vith a very narrow power band but other than that i can see the point in it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turbo Grant Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 I had a glanza box in my black GT for a bit. Lost about 5mph off each gear with the GT box I used to get 100in 3rd and 120 in 4th Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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