mark-tozer Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 im pissed off with my athena head gasket not sealing and was wonderring what power the genuine toyota head gasket can take and how long it would last if anyone had done it. thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akyakapotter Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 My standard one gave up at 233.4bhp well started to give up having Athena fitted soon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DevonGT Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Should take 18psi with no problems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mark-tozer Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 (edited) My standard one gave up at 233.4bhp well started to give up having Athena fitted soon yours was most probs the orginal gasket from factory so has been on a few years so lasted very well. i havnt had no success with a athena yet. Edited April 6, 2013 by mark-tozer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mark-tozer Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 Should take 18psi with no problems. im going to be running 1.4-1.5 bar on a forged engine. are you using a genuine toyota gasket at 18psi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DevonGT Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 No I'm not using one, but they're good for up to 18psi. For your boost levels your need uprated IMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave D Glanza V Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Saw your pics on fb what happend it obviously didnt work for done reason? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Driver Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Depends, mine had done about 140k miles and did 1.6bar (about 260/270hp) and is still going strong now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mech5107 Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 I've seen many forged 4e hitting 250+ on stock flange.I've also seen head lifting due to stock headbolts and the stock gasket was still strong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Toffinator Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Was that on standard internals driver? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mark-tozer Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 No I'm not using one, but they're good for up to 18psi. For your boost levels your need uprated IMO. out of interest wat head gasket do you use Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mark-tozer Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 Saw your pics on fb what happend it obviously didnt work for done reason? pissed off bud ive got a £100 gasket which isnt any good Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mark-tozer Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 Depends, mine had done about 140k miles and did 1.6bar (about 260/270hp) and is still going strong now. thats really good to know that is lasting long thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mark-tozer Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 I've seen many forged 4e hitting 250+ on stock flange.I've also seen head lifting due to stock headbolts and the stock gasket was still strong.i take it when you say stock flange you mean head gasket thats good news to know ive got arp head bolts so sorted there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlancEP82 Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 I'm sticking a genuine Toyota one on soon,good info I needed here saved me looking cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mech5107 Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 i take it when you say stock flange you mean head gasket thats good news to know ive got arp head bolts so sorted there. Exactly! If i had to open my engine, i would used genuine toyota gasket and arp studs/bolts Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shorty Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 i use athena never hand an issue, I've had cruise ones befor and didnt rate that tbh. contact athena if you realy think its the gasket as tbh if you are having sealing issues id be looking at weather the head or block isnt true. you have the head skimed? and has the block been checked it may need decking. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DevonGT Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 out of interest wat head gasket do you use I'm using a Cruise gasket. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
starletburkie Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 (edited) Fresh genuine Toyota gasket will be good for 1.4 bar on td04 for example imo there a good gasket for the money, depending on map ect Edited April 6, 2013 by starletburkie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Driver Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Was that on standard internals driver? Certainly was dude. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wickedep Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 the stock genuine gasket can take a fair bit of abuse tbh. back in early 2001-2004 i was running several different turbos (td05, t3 , gt2876r etc) at 1.5-1.8bar boost and it never gave out. make sure the head/block is straight and use new oem bolts. arp's would do fine too. would always recommend a metal HG for a full build..but if your on a budget..you may be able to get by for the moment with your oem HG. we are using an athena on my car right now and dont seem to have any issues. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mark-tozer Posted April 7, 2013 Author Share Posted April 7, 2013 (edited) Exactly!If i had to open my engine, i would used genuine toyota gasket and arp studs/boltsthanks for infoi use athena never hand an issue, I've had cruise ones befor and didnt rate that tbh. contact athena if you realy think its the gasket as tbh if you are having sealing issues id be looking at weather the head or block isnt true. you have the head skimed? and has the block been checked it may need decking.its got be the gasket as it was sealing fine before on a toyota genuine gasket. was your athena gasket the same as mine in the photo. im waiting for the company i bought the gasket off to contact athena.I'm using a Cruise gasket.is the oil way on the cruise like the genuine gasket or like the athena.Fresh genuine Toyota gasket will be good for 1.4 bar on td04 for example imo there a good gasket for the money, depending on map ectthanks for info i may end up trying one.the stock genuine gasket can take a fair bit of abuse tbh. back in early 2001-2004 i was running several different turbos (td05, t3 , gt2876r etc) at 1.5-1.8bar boost and it never gave out. make sure the head/block is straight and use new oem bolts. arp's would do fine too. would always recommend a metal HG for a full build..but if your on a budget..you may be able to get by for the moment with your oem HG. we are using an athena on my car right now and dont seem to have any issues.thanks for the info sounds like the genuine gasket is fairly strong so i can result to using a genuine gasket if i dont get any luck with the athena Edited April 7, 2013 by mark-tozer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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