PaulStarletSR Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 (edited) it's a shame enzo still isn't floating about. his jdm 4efe (100bhp) n/a build was a massive inspiration. focus on weight enzos wee beast was closer to 120bhp easily Edited May 20, 2013 by PaulStarletSR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Green Posted May 20, 2013 Author Share Posted May 20, 2013 Just found some info on Enzo car, over on austatletclub.com The Aussies seem to be doing alot on n/a tuning at the moment. Only one has ITB's though and they are enclosed with a BCM airbox :/ no trumpets Quote Link to post Share on other sites
morgey Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Enclosed seems to be better, even on mine most people seem to get best results from enclosed intake systems on the throttles.If you're getting really technical the ideal length between the tip of the trumpet and the combustion chamber can be calculated and also the ideal length of each runner of the exhaust manifold then the collector an finally the overall length of the exhaust. If you get these spot on you can get whats called pulse tuning And its like a shockwave that getting amplified and helps the gassed through the engine and can create some crazy torque curves. Have a read of thishttp://www.emeraldm3d.com/articles/emr-adj-length-intake/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Billy SR Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 (edited) enzos wee beast was closer to 120bhp easily 100hp out the standard engine ;) i think he estimated 120 out of it, if it ever came up for sale i'd snap it up in it's previous shell before the ep81 shell he put the 4efe into, just for inspiration. and here was the spec list http://www.torquestats.com/modified/index.php?car_id=203 kind of the reason i bought 14" weds. when the money is right, i'm gonna go all lightweight on the pink beast Edited May 20, 2013 by Billy SR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fozzie Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Will do, thanks. I remember a someone had a Paseo with ITB's back on UKSC, from memory, it was his display picture and had individual filters.Pretty sure steed on here had ITBs running on his 6 speed Paseo for a while? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Green Posted May 20, 2013 Author Share Posted May 20, 2013 Enclosed seems to be better, even on mine most people seem to get best results from enclosed intake systems on the throttles.If you're getting really technical the ideal length between the tip of the trumpet and the combustion chamber can be calculated and also the ideal length of each runner of the exhaust manifold then the collector an finally the overall length of the exhaust. If you get these spot on you can get whats called pulse tuning And its like a shockwave that getting amplified and helps the gassed through the engine and can create some crazy torque curves.Have a read of thishttp://www.emeraldm3d.com/articles/emr-adj-length-intake/ Cheers Morgey, makes for a good read, will have another read of it tomorrow, its a bit late haha. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Green Posted May 20, 2013 Author Share Posted May 20, 2013 Pretty sure steed on here had ITBs running on his 6 speed Paseo for a while? That's the one Phil, I knew I wasn't imagining it. Will have a search for the build thread. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bluebear Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Didn't another guy called enzo push his N/A a fair bit? His name was enzo_*insert a load of numbers here*. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Green Posted May 21, 2013 Author Share Posted May 21, 2013 Didn't another guy called enzo push his N/A a fair bit? His name was enzo_*insert a load of numbers here*. He rebuit the whole engine and it looked real smart, I remember read he was thinking about installing nitrous, but I haven't seen any progress. Joel was working on nitrous as well, but haven't seen anything materialise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AdamB Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 I wouldn't bother wasting your time, money or effort on porting the cylinder head. They are the same head as used on the FTE and we have seen it time and time again where the stock head still flows well enough to support 280bhp+, which is never going to be made on an N/A. You could smooth it, but refrain from any material removal and just concentrate on blending and shaping. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Green Posted May 21, 2013 Author Share Posted May 21, 2013 I wouldn't bother wasting your time, money or effort on porting the cylinder head. They are the same head as used on the FTE and we have seen it time and time again where the stock head still flows well enough to support 280bhp+, which is never going to be made on an N/A. You could smooth it, but refrain from any material removal and just concentrate on blending and shaping. Every litte helps though! I won't be doing it my self, but someone who knows that they are doing, plus its not costing me anything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mikep82 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Thought Enzo said it had 115bhp in his kudos swinger arm version. 100hp based jdm 4efe with fhe cams and lightweight crank pulley and lightened flywheel and fujitsubo exhaust. The best way to go is itb's tbh. And it was faster then a .8 bar Glanza! Alot I found an even lighter stock version but its listed with the same weight XD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Addymk2 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Interesting thought... The Corolla 6 speed box had shorter gears, could improve acceleration by quite a wedge on an NA. And the boxes can be picked up at a decent price Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Green Posted May 21, 2013 Author Share Posted May 21, 2013 The 5e-fhe is around 110bhp, so its a decent base to start on, surely i cant be that hard to gain 30-40bhp. ITB's arrived today so I will crack on with them. Funny you should say that Addy I thinking of going six speed. I've hear there isn't much of a difference between the two boxes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mikep82 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 (edited) Na short box is indeed comparable with the 6 spd rolla boxIve got the FHE mtm gearbox to test out in a few weeks, i believe its a C153.4 short gears then the fift as long as the C52. Anyone know this type of box? Edited May 21, 2013 by Mikep82 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
b16a2 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 If I wanted to keep it n/a I would go with an 4age conversion Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Green Posted May 21, 2013 Author Share Posted May 21, 2013 Na short box is indeed comparable with the 6 spd rolla boxIve got the FHE mtm gearbox to test out in a few weeks, i believe its a C153.4 short gears then the fift as long as the C52.Anyone know this type of box?Best person to speak to regarding gear boxes is , i know he has tried a few different ones in starlets. If I wanted to keep it n/a I would go with an 4age conversionThat's all well and good if you haven't spent the best part of a year and heap of money building a 5e-fhe. I know where you are coming from though. If it was a fresh start it would be a different story + I don't think Morgey would be a happy man lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
morgey Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 I wouldnt mind, the more people who do it the more info there is which will help other people. But i also like people who go against the grain, like yourself, "why not just go 4efte".....Erm because i like the challenge of doing something different and seeing where a n/a can get to! Kudos to ya and stick to ya guns Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Green Posted May 21, 2013 Author Share Posted May 21, 2013 I wouldnt mind, the more people who do it the more info there is which will help other people.But i also like people who go against the grain, like yourself, "why not just go 4efte".....Erm because i like the challenge of doing something different and seeing where a n/a can get to!Kudos to ya and stick to ya guns That's actually a fair point, more of them around the more knowledge there is. Yeah, it's a challenge, hours spent searching corners of the internet trying to find info and parts. The hardest part of my build was sourcing engine, parts and now creating my own due to the fact most tuning companies focusing on the 4e-fte. Whereas not many people go to extreme lengths on squeezing more power out of the N/A. Cheers Morgey, will do! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
b16a2 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 I wouldnt mind, the more people who do it the more info there is which will help other people.But i also like people who go against the grain, like yourself, "why not just go 4efte".....Erm because i like the challenge of doing something different and seeing where a n/a can get to!Kudos to ya and stick to ya guns Exactly its nice to see people do something different Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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