McGlinchey Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Any one know if 4efte and 4age valve stem oil seals are the same, reason being I have zisco ones and just wonderd if they could be used in my 4age rebuild? Thanks in advance Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McGlinchey Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 Bump anyone know? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WallaceGlanza Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I'm pretty sure they're the same... I've just bought some advertised for a 4age to fit an fte, we can swap if they don't fit! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McGlinchey Posted April 1, 2014 Author Share Posted April 1, 2014 No I'm just wondering if I could use my zisco ones on my 4age build that's all lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McGlinchey Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 Any one know?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AdamB Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 They are the same, both engines use 6mm diameter valves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McGlinchey Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 They are the same, both engines use 6mm diameter valves. Cheers mate! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AdamB Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 If you look closer you will also find a lot more parts that are interchangeable from the 4AGE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Green Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 If you look closer you will also find a lot more parts that are interchangeable from the 4AGE Ohh, like what? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AdamB Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 (edited) Ohh, like what? The entire valvetrain bar the valves as they are much longer in the stem, although if you wanted to get creative you could have the stem turned on a lathe and have the collet locks cut back in, but not worth it imo. Oh and there's a lot more upgrades for the 4AGE in terms of valve train components and at much cheaper prices than traders have advertised Edited April 7, 2014 by AdamB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Green Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Back up a second! Do cams fit? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
morgey Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 No they won't, the 4e cams rotate opposite ways whereas the 4age ones both rotate the same direction. Then there's the dizzy. 16v 4age's run the dizzy off the site of the block not off the end of them like 4e's. I'm guessing he's getting at shims and buckets. Maybe springs (they'd be the wrong length surely) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AdamB Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) No cams won't fit, quite obvious the cams are different since the E series is only a single cam (realisticly). Cams can be had cheap anyway if you know where to look, although in my opinon cams aren't needed till well over 350bhp, and there's bigger restriction than the cams. But yes buckets, valve guides, valve stem seals, retainers, springs are the same.The springs have the same free length as the E series so they fit no problem, and also have the same base seat pressure So no need to go milling the cylinder head or adding shims to adjust the base pressure. Edited April 8, 2014 by AdamB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Green Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 I really posted that without thinking, too early in the morning lol. I know piper or Kent cams do reprofiled cams. Where else do them? So the springs do fit? Are they stiffer than the 4e ones? Only interested in this as I want to up my RPM's a bit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AdamB Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 I really wouldn't bother with cams, especially regrounds. Really aren't needed and people pick them for the wrong reason.Yes the springs fit and yes they are stiffer but depends where you go as different manufacturers use different material which will change the spring rate. How high do you want to go on the revs? Don't forget that a stiffer spring saps engine power and also wears the cam lobes quicker and harsher. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turbo Grant Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 4age springs got coil bound with a set of cruise cams I have lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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