TimD Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 (edited) As titled, spent the majority of the weekend fitting a new head gasket, get it all fired up and within minutes the water has turned into a oily mess and there's mayo on the underside of the oil cap.. I've checked and double checked the vacuum / coolant lines on the throttle body so I'm pretty sure it's not them, if someone can confirm them for me that would be great.. So If you stand on the passenger side of the car looking at the throttle body: - Far left is water - To thermostat - Next one along is water - To water pump pipe - The bent one is vacuum - The one behind that is vacuum Cheers Edited November 8, 2015 by TimD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jayc-glanza17 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 http://www.toyotagtturbo.com/forums/showthread.php?20512-throttle-body-vacuum-water-pipesCheck this thread tim. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TimD Posted November 8, 2015 Author Share Posted November 8, 2015 Thanks for that! But just as I thought, I've got them right. Gutted Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDMfreak Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 did you flush the engine out as there might still be water in oil galleries and di ya have head skimmed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patman Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 If you had the pipes the wrong way round you car would of ran for about 5-10 seconds on first start up then just stalled Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5e colin Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 headgasket wrong way round Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TimD Posted November 8, 2015 Author Share Posted November 8, 2015 This is how the head gasket has been fitted, thought i'd checked on here this is the correct way? Feel free to correct my dumb ass if it's not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5e colin Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 looks gooed to me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TimD Posted November 8, 2015 Author Share Posted November 8, 2015 Blocked cleaned up nice Friend of mine thinks I was too hasty getting it up and running and should have flushed everything out, will do that tomorrow and try agin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patman Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I would be interested to know the result of this kind of baffling me now everything looks right, inlet pipes all sweet what else could it be Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jayc-glanza17 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Looks correct way for sure.Inlet pipes too.Id presume you have changed filer and oil as well? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_g Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Correct torque procedure for the headbolts?Head skimmed?No hairline cracks in the block etc?Or yeah maybe just do another oil flush and see how you get on Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TimD Posted November 8, 2015 Author Share Posted November 8, 2015 It's been fitted with ARP's, so 20, 40 60 lbft, head was pressure checked and skimmed 8thou. Going to flush both coolant and oil and see where that leaves me, if that doesn't solve it, head off again to figure this out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Mike EP82 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Is this new oil and coolant that's mixed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flaminsam Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I may have spotted the problem. Where the oil gallery is from the block to the head it's not a joined. The oil gallery uses a head bolt to feed oil to the head if I remember correctly. On the standard head gaskets they are a tear drop shape (bottom left hand corner of the block on your pic) and your new head gasket does not have anywhere for the oil to go? Easiest way out? The coolant jacket. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TimD Posted November 8, 2015 Author Share Posted November 8, 2015 Every Athena/JE gasket I've seen has the same layout so I'm not sure it's what is causing the problem, but you never know. Is this new oil and coolant that's mixed? I think I've been daft by not draining the oil and flusing the cooling system before starting it up. Tomorrow I'm going to flush as well as possible the coolant system, and also drop the oil and replace with new stuff and see if there is any change. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Mike EP82 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Every Athena/JE gasket I've seen has the same layout so I'm not sure it's what is causing the problem, but you never know.I think I've been daft by not draining the oil and flusing the cooling system before starting it up.Tomorrow I'm going to flush as well as possible the coolant system, and also drop the oil and replace with new stuff and see if there is any change.Try new oils etc may need changing a few times just to make sure it's clean Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Mike EP82 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Also re torque head if you didn't clean bolt holes out, probably backed off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
H_D Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 im guessing the head or block might be warped or the head wasn't skimmed properly - any pics of the head? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flaminsam Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 http://www.ukstarletowners.com/topic/63773-anyone-had-problems-with-athena-mls-head-gasket-leaking-oil/ Has anyone read this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TimD Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share Posted November 9, 2015 There are no visible signs of an external leak, well not that I can see and having read that before firing it up that was on my list of things to check. Heading over to work on the car in about 10 minutes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TimD Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share Posted November 9, 2015 It's running. Flushed coolant through, changed oil and it seems to be all clear. It seems to be running ok, had it up and down the little industrial estate road and it drove ok. Hopefully going to get it in for a sniff test and have the ignition timing checked in the next couple of days! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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