Marc Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 I am just about to buy my fmic for my starlet EP82. I can get an autobahn kit delivered for £240HDI intercooler For £280 DeliveredDave burwash autobahn replica £240 DeliveredWhich one should i get? I quite like the HID kit, i have added a link to the HID kit thread below:Link to HDI coolerNow i am wondering will that HDI intercooler fit my EP82 without problems? Anyone know or know of someone who knows lol?Hope you guys can help me decideMM Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tintin_SR Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 i just got an autobahn88 this week and it looks the sizz, seen them hid ones as well and i was interested in them thy look good, not shoer bout fitting them to an 82 shooed work fine id think but don't take my word for it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scutch0 Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 im gonna get a hdi kit, im not too sure that it fits ep82's yet tho? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 The piping looks good on them HDI kits Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turbo_time Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 i have an AB88 kit and the piping is made of recycled coke cans lol i will deffinalty be replacing it in the near future saying that the actual cooler is greeeeeeat does the job just to give you an idea bud before you make your mind up jason Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ecksjay Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 the piping is just a bit of ali, and the cores are all generic ones from china, so providing they fit they'll all do the same job Quote Link to post Share on other sites
damian Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 if your getting the autobahn 88 i would get new clips as they are made out of rusty paperclips, and they are not so giving on the samco. but as above dose the job well! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NightSpirit Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 Marc,This is only my opinion, but I'd rule out buying a replica of a cheap IC mate...that narrows your choice down to 2.I know I've said it before and I don't want to start a big debate but I'd not buy any of em, I'd buy an original Blitz, or something that isn't a rough copy of something. I said it last time, even mentioned it to Dave Burwash himself...offered my car as a test bed too. Show me results of a car fitted with these new breed copy coolers and show me the results with the Blitz or similar cooler that's been track tested, researched and proven. I'd bet a fair bit that the copy coolers start to flow like a pile of cack as the boost goes up. Same story happened with the MR2s a few years back, copy coolers started showing up of the Greddy cores, half the price, everyone started buying em...then they did some tests...the copies at normal boost conditions were better than the Greddy, but as the tuning and boost rose, the Greddy left the rest behind.Just my opinion that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave@TM-Developments.com Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Marc,This is only my opinion, but I'd rule out buying a replica of a cheap IC mate...that narrows your choice down to 2.I know I've said it before and I don't want to start a big debate but I'd not buy any of em, I'd buy an original Blitz, or something that isn't a rough copy of something. I said it last time, even mentioned it to Dave Burwash himself...offered my car as a test bed too. Show me results of a car fitted with these new breed copy coolers and show me the results with the Blitz or similar cooler that's been track tested, researched and proven. I'd bet a fair bit that the copy coolers start to flow like a pile of cack as the boost goes up. Same story happened with the MR2s a few years back, copy coolers started showing up of the Greddy cores, half the price, everyone started buying em...then they did some tests...the copies at normal boost conditions were better than the Greddy, but as the tuning and boost rose, the Greddy left the rest behind.Just my opinion that. We have the original "Forced" intercooler on our car, with the sharp bends off the intercooler. Doing a grand job at 320bhp and cooling very well. When the angled bends were mentioned to our mapper he did remark what a total crock of shit people give as advice. You will do well to slow down a charge of air with 1bar pressure behind it!!We purposely fitted one of these kit to our car as people slated them and we won't be changing it as it works a treat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NightSpirit Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Like I said it's just my opinion...Everyone has an opinion on air flow etc, personally, I believe air flow should be as smooth and unrestricted as possible, no sharp bends, but hey, that 'shortfall' was rectifited on the later coolers.I still say fit a Blitz or similar and see what the car does with one on aswell, group test would be great.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobSR Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 my bros just bought an autobahn one, and like people have said, the clips are rubbish, the pipes are pretty rubbish, and the fitment isnt that great.., Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NightSpirit Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 You get's what you pay for...Used Blitz cost more than new Autobahn. I'm such a brand whore. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SiCaln Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 top marks from me go to the GReddy im fraid Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave@TM-Developments.com Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Agreed, the Greddy is best Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NightSpirit Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Agreed... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Idrees Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Greddy ftw Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nanglebadger Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 GReddy for the nanglewagon conversion!Phil. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NightSpirit Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 But in all honesty...if you want the best of the best...Apex-i lead the way in intercoolers. Look at the FMIC on a JZA80, big fat rows for the air to pass along, and each row is angled to speed air passage over the row and through the cooler fins...the absolute shizzle. Phoenix Power in Japan use the Apex-i core for their SW20 side mount ICs, they're rare as hens teeth and when I get a few in, they sell for around £600 used! But PP take perfection and improve on it, adding welded oversized pipework from the turbo, enlarged end tanks etc.So infact....Apex-i ftmfw. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marc Posted March 10, 2008 Author Share Posted March 10, 2008 Agreed, the Greddy is bestYou cant get a greddy for an EP82 though! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NightSpirit Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Why not be original and get an apexi core from a supra or something and make up the mounts? that would look bad ass and would cool more air than your car could ever possibly flow Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marc Posted March 10, 2008 Author Share Posted March 10, 2008 Why not be original and get an apexi core from a supra or something and make up the mounts? that would look bad ass and would cool more air than your car could ever possibly flow but where do i get piping from mate? Making sure it will fit etc. How much do them intercoolers cost? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Go to a exhaust fabricator and they will custom make a set of pipes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NightSpirit Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Yup any welder/pipe maker can fab up some piping to your needs, that way you can get nice large bore pipe...maximise that flow. As anyone would tell you, your performance products are only as good as the weakest item Apex-i core? from a supra (which is HUGE by the way...doubt it'd fit the ep82) I'm guessing about £300. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TurboDave Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I have a WEPR cooler fitted and I wouldnt change it for any other cooler.It fits nice and snug, the joiners are great, the pipes are equally as great and I havent had any problems with it.My 2p. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marc Posted March 11, 2008 Author Share Posted March 11, 2008 I have a WEPR cooler fitted and I wouldnt change it for any other cooler.It fits nice and snug, the joiners are great, the pipes are equally as great and I havent had any problems with it.My 2p.There a bit high priced for what it is. Its like £350, will be the same core as others except a little smaller, has decent piping thats probs bout it. For another £100 you could get your hands on a greddy if you know where to look and know the right people. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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