Yeah i know!! Meh, sorted it now mate, gone for a CT9 Externally gated mild steel Ram style Mani Yeah F1s mate, they grip so well too. And might get a set of 15mm spacers ordered then, think the fronts will rub though. Yeah i know what you mean mate, think its the lips that are missing to be honest, or maybe a FMIC. Meh its a project so im sure it'll take shape sometime soon. Cheers dude!