They werent bad, it did scrape the tyres on certain bumps but wasnt usually bad untill you have about 2 or 3 passengers, it sat quite nice, you can see pics on my build thread before i fitted my coily's, You still get a bit of body roll with them but i found them ok, They arent to expensive brand new, i think you can pick a set up for under £100 now, Would definatly go for either 40mm or coilovers for suspension, i bought 35mm first and they didnt lowered it atol really so it was a waste of money. Gary