cheers for the compliments guys it was quite funny when i went to pipecraft to get it fitted, the guy goes to me 'you know this is going to be rediculously loud, you get loud and then you get rediculously loud, yours will be rediculously loud' haha. He took the old backbox off and then goes to me 'this is what it will sound like with the backbox on with no backbox lol, so its pretty much like rolling with no backbox loud hehe. i was asking about getting a decat he said you might aswell have no exhaust steve yeah i will be at japfest for shure boi, i take it you will there too then, if so i need to get practicing my kickboxing chanelle x