mycars12 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Does anyone have experience with a holset he221w or a he211w on a 4efte? Information is hard to come by with them and is mostly used on diesel applications but the compressor map is amazing He211w (Red lines came on the pic) He221w Thinking it could be quite responsive on a stock 4e. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sam44 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 I'm keeping an eye on this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gilly Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 A freind of mine used one on his fully forged 5E but he fitted it with a bigger comp wheel (billet) from memory it was a 6x6 blade. it made 297 (flywheel) at 1.3 bar boost. people tend to not like holsets and ive no idea why as parts are cheap to get and easy to come across - If you get the right combination holset you won't have any issues. go for it and be different. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ste91 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Anyone else got any experience with these turbos? The HE211W has identical turbine wheel dimensions to a TD04L and it's a straight swap, making the 221 a direct fit as most of us have manifolds with the 3 bolt TD04 flange. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Claymore Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 2 hours ago, ste91 said: Anyone else got any experience with these turbos? The HE211W has identical turbine wheel dimensions to a TD04L and it's a straight swap, making the 221 a direct fit as most of us have manifolds with the 3 bolt TD04 flange. I found some info online which may help, these are the sights where the above graphs are taken from. http://www.stavtech.co.uk/home/the-ultimate-holset-turbo-guide-probably http://www.stavtech.co.uk/home/stavs-tech-tips-the-holset-he221w-360bhp-capable-and-fast-spooling-turbo-can-be-easily-fitted-to-standard-subaru-volvo-and-saab-exhaust-manifolds-and-downpipes Don't forget there is more to turbos than just wheel dimensions, it seems the 211w most often has a 5cm turbine housing where a TD04l -13t Subaru turbo is a 6cm turbine housing. Other sizes may be available. Just choose wisely. The 221w turbine is TD04HL sized and requires an aftermarket HL Subaru housing to fit according to the second link. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ste91 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Those are the articles I've already read and pretty much the only information on them that I can find. TD04L/TD04HL and HE221W/HE211W are so similar just one letter or number different it's easy to get them mixed up but yea I've already been through those articles and videos a few times. Doesn't look like anyone has actually tried it though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sam44 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Very interested in this if you get any more information or decide to give the turbo a try. I'm currently running a td04l hyb and I'm trying to get the surge of power as the turbo switches on down, as well as hold the engine torque up by reducing back pressure, but it's a balancing act. I'm thinking of running the tdo4hl exhaust turbine & housing with the 11 blade aftermarket turbine wheel which is quite a bit lighter than the 9 blade td04l I'm currently running now. The exhaust housing on the hl turbo is wider in the shell also I've got 1 here. From what I'm reading the holset turbo seems to be the balance I'm after. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mycars12 Posted September 2, 2020 Author Share Posted September 2, 2020 At the time I was looking at these but finding one was the hard part and they fetch a good 700+ for the turbo. Ended up going the GTX route but the holset turbos have peaked my interest. Only thing is the 211 is found on diesels and diesel and gasoline turbos are quite different. 221w seems like the hot ticket but then again my power goals are higher since I'm going forged 5e. Only real info I found on these holsets was diesel sites but nothing quite writing about. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sam44 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 I must admit these are pricey. VF prices tbf. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Claymore Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Stumbled across this today, might be useful to some who are interested in compressor maps. Full credit to Kris H. https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turbo-and-turbo-s-forum/853894-turbocharger-compressor-and-turbine-maps-mega-thread.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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